Conflicted
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Posted May 13, 2021, 12:37 AM UTC
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This ain’t the right sub for this
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Ive been spamming my insta with news about this, it's really sad and I hope this ends soon (I'm sure it won't but part of me has faith)..
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It is very sad. I too have been spamming social media to create awareness. I really hope it ends soon too and people can live in harmony.
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This issue is too complex to ask the club to take a for/against position. If you want to discuss it there are lots of other subs for that but it would be inappropriate to pretend there is a good or bad side in this. There are just opposing sides each with its respective merits.
No, dont misunderstand what im saying.
Of course the issue is complex, and we as fans or even a club wont make a big difference. But in comparison we as a club did wear armbands and took knees for racism against our African american brothers and sisters. Imo its a similar situation, and it was appropriste to stand for the good side.
I was moreso speaking as an individual. how its conflicting for me to support my chelsea knowing the owner has an involvement in human rights violations. I cannot do this in other subs, as it this stand wouldn't apply there.
Im not naive, i know its a very complex situation. The zionist are very influencial and going against them could be detrimental hence why we see just a few countries speaking out in support of the Palestinian people
Yea see you have a fixed view of Israel being the antagonist, so any discussion wouldn’t be in good faith as you are operating from the assumption that what you believe is true.
And you appear to have to opposite view my friend. See the thing is, we're living in a world where we have social media and we're able to receive information from normal people like me and you instead of big news corporations with agenda.
Of course i try to be neutral but seeing one side heavily armed attacking civilians including children and forcing people out of their homes undefendible to me personally. Just by looking at the reduction of Palestinian teritory over history you can see who the instigators are.
Of course you have hamas on the other side of the spectrum, theyre 100% wrong for attacking civilians but theyre not an army.
I respect that your opinions or view may be in conflict with mine and my intention is not to debate. If you wanted to put across your opinion, i would consider them and take them in to consideration.
Social media is a double edged sword though, Reddit is an example of that. It becomes easy with the way algorithms work to only get information that you already agree with and you are silo’d by social media. I’m not from the region so my opinion takes little of the historical context into account. What I see is the ground reality today and that is of a Palestine that is unwilling to accept a 2 state solution on multiple points throughout history. Now Israel has reached a point where they have used their military strength to simply contain the situation and extend their control into the would be Palestinian Territories. Now the settlements and forced evictions are bad, but if you are going to respond with rockets launched en masse into civilian areas then that’s a case of fuck around and get found out.