Work Life balance at the start.

Doing a lot of searching into doing something else other than my current $25/hr factory job. I'm looking for a career now and not interested in moving up the management chain. Refrigeration (I guess trades in general) has caught my eye. Mainly for the money.

0 experience, starting from scratch. Already 33 YO, with sore back and feet at the end of most days. 1 year old at home and our second on the way this summer. New build home to be finished at the end of the year as well (taking on mortgage). But there's no time like the present right??

Anyway I'm just looking for some advice or discussion about the work life balance at the start. I know it will be busy/demanding. Any insights on how fast would I be able to work my way up to my current wage?

Or if anyone is in the same boat any tips for efficiency.

Thanks.

Posted May 17, 2021, 8:16 AM UTC

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motherofthemilf69•

20 year old, doing an apprenticeship in Germany (2nd year). The balance is definetly more work than life. I've worked over 60 hours a week in customer service in summer and spend lots of weeks for assembly in hotels on distance to my home. The job and career chances are well, but you have to be on fire for the job

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CornerGOP•

I was afraid of this but understand. What do you mean you "have to be on fire for the job"? Like have a passion for it? Thanks for the reply and congrats on your 2nd year in apprenticeship man.

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motherofthemilf69•

Thanks, I mean it's easier to work long times if you have a passion for it, good luck!

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L0st_Froggo👨🏼‍🏭 Deep Fried Condenser (Commercial Tech)•

Well, it all depends what you find. Some companies will work you like a dog, some others understand that life is important. I think starting out no matter what will be a little more on the work side. Lots of training and learning. You will more than likely start riding a long with someone and it depends how they are as well. And when you are first on your own jobs will take you longer for sure. I remember jobs i did on my first 9 months solo that took me 1-3+ hours, but if i did them now with the skills and troubleshooting i have learned they would be an hour tops.

Work life balance jobs are out there. Then again i hear if you become a supermarket refrigeration tech, you will be out working and on call all the time. But the money you will be making should be good.

Sincerely, A light commercial refrigeration service technician

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CornerGOP•

Thanks for the insight, it makes sense the beginning stages will be more demanding. Do you think in the long run there are more stable hours? Also, not the first time I've seen supermarket techs are very busy, do you know why that is? Just always an issue somewhere I suppose.

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L0st_Froggo👨🏼‍🏭 Deep Fried Condenser (Commercial Tech)•

Cause of the amount of money in super market freezers and coolers, they are full of product and people are there 24/7 working and when there is an issue they need it checked and serviced ASAP. They don’t want to lose thousands of dollars worth of product. Super market techs at a reputable company make great money though.

I consider myself a light commercial refrigeration tech. We service gas stations, restaurants, hospitals, schools, nursing homes and things in between. I always get 40 hours, i get 45-50 constantly. In the summer on call or not i may put in 60+ hours some weeks. My boss currently understands work life balance, and some techs i work with want that extra cash so they do those calls late in the day i may not want to go do. Just got to find your balance

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motherofthemilf69•

The supermarket refrigeration is the same in Germany, in my company the service guys are on call every 6 weeks for 2 weeks or, the construction guys are 4 days on trip to build followed by 3 days weekend

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astoner32•

It depends on a lot of things, like your location and the company you get hired by. I’ll tell you my experience, I started refrigeration 2 years ago when I was 33 years old. Married with 3 year old and 1 year old and a house. Didn’t know a lick of refrigeration or service work, learned everything on the job and my own time. I made the switch from a retail job that I wasn’t happy at, spent some time thinking about what I enjoyed and what I was good at and problem solving was what I came up with, I always liked math and science in school for that reason. Had a family connection to the refrigeration company I work for and met with the owner. He did a great job of explaining what they do and the skills need to do the job and it seemed like a great fit. He also did a good job showing what the compensation would be, showed starting hourly wage estimated hours worked in winter/summer plus bonuses and then showed here’s what a tech with 4-5 years experience is making and here is a tech with 8-10 years so you really know what to expect.

My experience with pay is, they have moved me along very well. I picked it up well and try to tackle what ever they give to me, right now I’m getting paid in the 4-5 year range. Because I have potential and good work ethic and good tech are hard to come by. Life and work can be hard to balance sometimes. Luckily my company doesn’t do any big grocery store work. Summer time you get 50-55 hrs winter is 45-50 and I’m on call once every 7 weeks. I just have to remind my wife that some of the late nights and being gone on weekends is part of the job.

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CornerGOP•

Subscribe! Seriously that's an awesome and encouraging story. ~50 hour weeks seems fair. Gotta love those connections. Think I'm going to look a lot closer into this. Thanks and congrats on your switch and journey so far.

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ReferHvacGuy•

Honestly man you’re gonna have a hard time with work/life balance in refrigeration. This is the place where we have to work on call, I’d say the average company rotation is every 3-6 weeks. Getting called out in the middle of the night, you won’t make good money for at least a few years, might not even see 25hr again for 2-3 years. I don’t know what to tell you, but it’s going to be a rough ride for you. We have an older guy who’s an apprentice where I work, it worked for him because he already had a job that was paying less than the lowest apprentice rate and he already has a house with a mortgage and doesn’t have kids. I couldn’t imagine starting out again with a baby at home

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CornerGOP•

Appreciate you telling it like it is. Honestly. It's only going to give me a more realistic view on this path anyway. I imagine most of the trades are demanding and on-call/long hours in the beginning. Do you know if there are any more manageable trades one could look into?

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ReferHvacGuy•

Personally I’d say every other trade is more manageable. However, construction is more manageable than service. You’d do well with sheet metal work, electrician, or plumber. Refrigeration installs wouldn’t be ideal because it is often overnight work in my experience.

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CornerGOP•

D'oh how'd I end up here when most other trades would probably suit my situation lmao. Actually overnight work doesn't bother me so much as I've been on night shift the last 5 years. Going to look into the ones you mentioned. Thanks ReferHvacGuy

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ReferHvacGuy•

Don’t get me wrong, you’re here because of the attractive pay prospects, but we here sacrifice our personal lives and time for high pay and job security. That’s it, there’s lots of trades that pay less but your quality of life will likely be better. I wish you the best

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Freon-Peon🦸‍♂️ Super Fridgie!•

I don’t know how Canada works tbh. I started supermarket in PA and worked mostly 40 hour weeks in winter and 70-90 hour weeks in summer. USD pay in 2014 was $20 an hour

Oddly enough, I moved to NC which has a lower COL but higher wages. I did some more supermarket with more reasonable hours but less professional employers.

Finally I settled into a job at a major agricultural plant overseeing maintenance on big chillers and air washer systems. I am on call every 9 weeks and get about 2 calls a year. Regular 40 hours plus benefits and occasional project overtime (I.E. this needs fixed when production is down on a saturday). Pay here is over $30 USD now so I an gonna ride this place out I think. Also I had 12 years in supermarket before coming here but they have hired new people with nothing but basic HVAC experience so it’s not exactly elite.

Anyhow, the jobs are out there. Just have to find them. In supermarket your first 5 years will be quite rough. You’re going to spend a lot of that time driving though so it’s not like you’re killing yourself doing the job. After 5 years and a comfortable skill level, you’ll be good to look for a nice cushy spot.

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thekux•

Most of my career has has been an HVAC not refrigeration. Either way you’re gonna have to go to some kind of vocational school. They’re not gonna give you $25 an hour to start out unless you are extremely lucky and somebody knows you something like that. There will be days you will regret doing it hit the trade and be days that you love it. Right now I’m going through the hate part again because it seems like everything I touched is turning to shit but then there’s times that area touch turns to gold. Looking for a refrigerant leaks is probably the worst thing in the whole business. You’ll have to get really good with electrical the refrigeration part is easy to pick up. Not every vocational school is the same some are a joke some are very good. I taught the trade for a while in Reno Nevada at night at the union hall and at local community college when they were needing extra staff

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