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feernot

Need Help - Old Player That Never Went Over Lvl 20 Returning to Mischief

I'm needing help/advice on picking a class. I played EQ in junior high while sharing a PC with my family of 6. Eventually me and the little bro caused such an uproar fighting over a Slime Coated Harpoon he wagered me that mom canceled the subscription (Jan 2001).

I always loved EQ, I'm now in my 30s, and clocked 23 hours this weekend on last year's TLP (just randomly picked one). However, I have NEVER been a part of a large or small group, never partaken in a "raid" besides standing in Blackburrow and getting trainwrecked, and never really done anything but solo in the low levels.

I've already consumed a ton of information via wiki's to get reacquainted, but I'm now more focused on trying something new that will help prepare me to group with folks. But I need to be able to add value to those groups via class and position all while being someone that hasn't ever done it much.

Please don't just say "just pick a class and do whatever you want" as I'm not a try-hard looking to min/max I just don't want to be a puller (as an example) if I've never even darkened the door of some of these zones, you know?

TL;DR - I am returning to EQ via Mischief and have only ever solo'd way back in the day. I need help with a good class to focus on to learn and hopefully eventually get into groups/raids with folks to add value to more experienced players. Any help/advice on picking a class?

Posted May 25, 2021, 9:19 PM UTC · edited

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Tobris•

As much as you said not to say it, with some further advice to come afterwards: Pick a class that looks interesting and go for it.

You said you didn't want to pull and that's understandable, you will want to avoid playing a Monk and a Bard and likely any of the tanks, many groups will just have their tank pull.

Early on in EQ isn't overly complex and as you said you're not hardcore about it so you likely won't fall into hardcore groups, just be honest and ask questions of your group if you don't understand. Most people are actually pretty chill outside that first wave (even many of those are too, just impatient)

Support can be a challenge in EQ - Enchanters and Shaman fall in here (since we ruled out Bard earlier) of the two Enchanter is the one that will probably make people more impatient. They're going to want you to charm for the DPS and you may or may not be comfortable doing that.

Shaman on the other hand can feel hectic and overwhelming sometimes. You need to be clear that you aren't comfortable undertaking every role a Shaman can fill if a group expects you to, if you're not comfortable. Shaman can resist debuff and slow enemies, they can buff and haste friendlies and they can also DPS with DoTs and Heal pretty well, and they get an ability called Cannibalize that trades their health for mana. Some groups will expect you to fill multiple of these roles at once. Sometimes it can get a bit hectic if your group is a tank 4 melee and you. It's just a bit much to keep them all buffed, hasted and then main heal and (maybe) slow mobs in early expansions as buffs don't last long and getting group versions can be a pain (if there is one.)

If you'd like to stick to something more simple in the role and duty it has. Clerics are only there to heal, and they're always in high demand. You'll always get a group, you'll always be asked to join guilds (whether you want to or not) and you'll always have a spot on a raid.

Casters are similar in their one-role, but not so similar in finding a spot. It can be difficult to stick out as a Mage, Necro or Wizard as they're a dime a dozen, but honestly it's not really that hard to find a place to land, especially if you're not looking at the tippy-top. This is honestly the category most classes fall in to. Clerics and later good Bards and Enchanters are always wanted in guilds. Boxes function but it's pretty easy to tell the difference between them and a real player.

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feernotOP•

Beautiful. Thanks so much for taking the time to offer this breakdown. Seems most are suggesting a cleric matches my general area.

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inderf•

yea, this is a pretty good summary overall. Cleric or Enchanter are the best for always being able to get a group, cleric is much more relaxed usually, enchanter being more active. Tank / Monk / Bard are decently popular for groups but usually require some knowledge of the dungeon.

The rest are all on a sliding scale of less desirable - I notice he left out Rogue, Druid, and Ranger, which is probably not a coincidence because those are some of the least desirable classes for groups. Not that they can't be useful, but they are overall weaker picks in the early lifespan of a TLP. Rogue at least is dead simple, and their damage can be respectable, especially in group environments where non-mana consistent damage is desirable, - you would be expected to level your lockpicking skill + open doors occasionally, otherwise you just stand around poking things in the behind. Also, extremely dependant on finding decent weapons, but given the server that'll be more an issue of collecting some money + trading for them.

Anyway, the real advice I have is, when you do get in groups don't be afraid to be sociable + ask questions, some people will not be very helpful but that's just how people are, there's plenty who will be more than happy to answer questions + teach a newer player.

Other tip is, grouping as a caster type is a bit different here than in other games, most of the time you need to be sitting to meditate + regen mana faster, as especially early on your mana pool will be relatively small + regen is slow, so you have to learn to manage how often you are casting so you don't run out - it's a good idea to let your group now if you are running low on mana, ESPECIALLY if you are the healer or enchanter.

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Pawnnshop99•

A desire to play and be helpful? I couldn’t think of any two better attributes to have coming in relatively fresh to this game! I think you’ll be fine if you’re coming in with that mindset or even asking these questions off rip.

As you level you’re naturally going to get better if you’re mindset is to get better, you’ll be mindful of it. If you have questions about certain abilities, mechanics, spells etc etc that’s where a mentor comes in. I think you’ll be fine bud. Don’t forget to have fun!

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Pawnnshop99•

I’d say join a guild and hopefully make friends, find a mentor within that guild that’s patient. When you do, please try what’s suggested. I can’t tell you how frustrating it is to have someone ask advice and I would give long well thought out responses, only to be ignored or never tried.

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feernotOP•

Joining a guild is on my radar and I've seen plenty of examples on how to get recruited. Perhaps I just assume most folks don't have enough time or patience these days for a newbie? Like I've got to bring something to the table besides just a desire to play and be helpful? Perhaps that's why I'm trying to see if I can focus on getting decent at a class and educate myself. Maybe I'm off on that idea.

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rcuhljr•

Less true during the first initial TLP rush, but in the long haul players are the single most important resource for a guild if it wants to keep going. Most guilds will go out of their way to educate new players and help them improve. My guild has had several never played before folks who joined and there's always someone willing to help coach them and show them the ropes.

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poster69420•

I see a lot of guilds advertise that they're casual-friendly, but nothing about new players. I imagine someone casually playing on-and-off for over 20 years now knows their way around. I also just played for a short time many years ago and then got back recently on Aradune, leveled a mage to 52. Looking forward to experiencing a smooth, problem-free server launch and trying a different class this time. Glad to know I won't be the only one out there without an encyclopedic knowledge of the game.

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Judas9451•

Play a cleric. It's easy to buff and heal people, and groups/raids will love you.

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Eredhel•

Guilds can be a bit different now too because of raid mechanics. Many guilds just recruit like crazy because they can throw numbers at raid targets and have regular side raids.

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Neither_Echo•

Play a healer class and you’ll be fine, super easy to get groups and always in need.

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bugbeared69•

If you want to heal buff and be a suport, Druid will give you a lot options and ports and is not a boring class can also dps or solo, shaman class am going to play can heal or dps but is always busy with buffs or cannibal for mana, cleric i love but it 99% time healer random 1 % dps nothing else ( well buffs and rez also ), great if you only want to heal you will be sought.

Avoid monk or bard if you never want pull, they have tools for pulling so people preference is them pulling majority of the time tanks are not hard to play but requires focus.

If you just want dps with options to solo nerco or mage would be my top picks, people say enchanter is good but they require work can't ignore charmed petor mit die.

The nice thing first 2 weeks or so, is everyone will be leveling i never once said don't pick that class unless we needed a healer or tank for last spots thier be more options for leveling even beyond that since people love alts but their be more power leveling mix in vs everyone the same just started.

Way back in the day my first toon was a ranger always got lost people would laugh saying a ranger who get lost in the forest, made me smile. they have a lot tools fun melle/ caster hybrid but people mit want you to tank / pull i never minded had track and snare so was easy and i was a ok tank least at low levels till i real tank pop up, would recommend it as a second class if you get bored.

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Lawless_Time•

Hmmm. I'm going to steal this one.

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yesnoyesnoyes69•

Druid!

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