Ridiculous double kill. How is this possible on lan?
Posted May 28, 2021, 3:28 PM UTC
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Doma was doing a breaststroke unlucky
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Avast stonks going up
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Dude got timing'd HARD on the sage animation, big hurter
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If you play at 0.25 speed you can see it hits sage's hand. Just crazy animation timing.
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Viper (Mistic) got legged from an OP, leaves her 30HP. Sage (Doma) got hit on her left hand, dies.
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To the game:
Leg = well...leg haha
Hand = Chest
So it's normal that if you get hit in the hand the game thinks that you should die with a OP
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Bit unfortunate but what else would they do?
Arms are generally close to the body so it wouldn’t be cool to block a sniper shot to the chest and live through it.
And if they calculate multiple hits and then choose the one with the highest damage... lowkey that would be nice. Would stop Jett from always using her meaty legs as a shield from headshots. Rito pls fix hand = hand
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This is why games have pass-through damage, the bullet would hit their hand, pass through, and hit their chest, you could either have it deal full damage, or if it hits their hand first it does the damage of where it hit (chest) minus the damage taken by the hand.
It's minutae, but it's better than having hands give one shots.
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This has nothing to do with lan but rather that it was just incredible timing. The timing with the shot and the animation of sage's wall placement made this a 1 in a million shot. The hitbox for Sage's hand is a little wonky but I don't think you should worry about this happening ever again
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Might have something to do with sage placing the wall the second he shoots, you can see her arms do the animation
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You can also see the arm not being exactly behind the crosshair.
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Yeah this is all bro science but since they changed the wall so it can’t place over nothing the wall may pre move people out of the way the second it’s buffered or something
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The hit box of the arm might be a little bigger than the arm you see in-game so he hit that
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I'd say it happened BECAUSE it was on LAN. The pixel perfect shot to go through a body and a hand. No way that happens on 40 ping
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It's just as likely to happen on lan, just a crazy (un)lucky 1 in a million shot.
Only way ping makes a difference is if you think that was intentional. LOL.
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This actually wouldn't happen with a ping dif. The timing was so exact and perfect. This is just hitboxes
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Arm.
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probably invisible hitbox/not 100% lined up with what you see during these casting animation
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You can also see the arm not being exactly behind the crosshair.
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I guess collateral body shots into someones hand does 150 damage... that’s awesome.
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That's how it would work in CS too, so it's probably fine like that
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All calculated penny saw the heal come out for a split second and moved his scope pixel perfect to the right spot
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It hit Sage's hand.
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this shouldnt happen, theres two theories, hitbox increases with the animation or bug, either way it sucks
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Is it possible that it was a ricochet?
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Um...
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No, I'm pretty sure ricochets aren't a thing in Val.
Looks like he just collated sages hand and that counts as a torso shot I suppose
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He hit sages arm when she is in the walling animation
yup I think this is the correct answer here.
what arm thing homie
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When sage walls she reaches out with her arm. That’s why it looks like a bug since they are far apart but in reality it was just insanely lucky
You can also see the arm not being exactly behind the crosshair when the shot goes off. Perhaps there is spectator lag on lan as well though.
EITHER way, ridiculous no?
Ridiculously unlucky for FNC, but I don't really think this is a "game is broken" situation.
If you watch the timing, he shoots RIGHT as her hand is coming back. The issue is the death immediately snaps her into a separate animation, which makes it hard to follow (ie, basically invisible).
Either way, unlucky and insane to see at the same time.
Probably spectator which is not updating as often as real game
Its def spectator lag, his crosshair does hit sages arm
I can see it possibly landing. Ridiculous maybe, however I think it hit based off where im guessing her arm and the bullet went. I dont think the shot hits her arm I think it hit her hand hitbox which is most likelly a circle covering the bottom of sage palms to the tip of her fingers. (Somewhat standard for most game hitboxes)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/537073325948665857/847886893205946439/unknown.png
Heres the best image of the last frame I could gather. If we look at sages arm as it goes behind viper we can see her elbow right before it goes behind her. (Sages upper arms are white and lower arms are black) if we kinda track her arm through the viper body we can see it could possibly hit her hand Specifically the fingers (im guessing her left and right hands will have the same position. relative the the lower arm so keep that in mind)
However i dont think there would be a way to tell 100% unless we tried to recreate the shot. also you may be right with spectator lag 90% sure the stream runs at 60 fps while the tick rate of the server and the fps of the players screen is 120. we (the viewers) couldve got a bad frame on something that is frame perfect. i Think the shot is Ridiculously lucky, however i can see it happening, and i think it did and shouldve landed. (I can also see it being BS and unfair to FNC, and shouldn't have landed)