Fremantle not participating in Mid-Season Rookie Draft
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fremantlefc.com.auPosted May 31, 2021, 9:33 AM UTC
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fremantlefc.com.auOn the surface seems like a mistake (and I thought it was a no brainer that we would take at least one) but I do see his logic when he puts it like that. Limited money due to soft cap reduction, plus the fact that the club wants to give any draftee a 2 year minimum.
Hypothetically if we took someone then it means there is one extra forced delisting at seasons end - normally its 4 min per year (cant recall if thats been adjusted due to covid) and if we took and kept a player from mid season draft that would make 5 forced delistings (though we could technically re rookie some)
I look at our full list and its tough to pick 4 or 5 id cut with no hesitation and id imagine that has to factor in when the list manager makes these calls - they would have a short term vision, a medium term vision, and a long term plan as well
I have to trust the new regime and list managers. They have been pretty fucking good so far
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Walls has done an amazing job since he took over in my opinion.
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Lol you really can't think of any players to drop from our list?
Players with limited ceiling: Giro, Crowden, Banfield, Bewley, Thomas, Duman, Watson
Players who can't stay on the park: Pearce, Hamling, Switta, Hill, Sturt
Pearce/Hamling/Sturt deserve one more go to get their bodies right. Maybe Switta.
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Im not saying I cant pick 4 or 5, but I would have some hesitation with a couple of them
Of the injury ones id keep them all minus Hill. As much as it sucks its a ruthless industry and its fair to say his time has come at seasons end. Zero chance id consider getting rid of Hamling, Pearce or Sturt. If they are all injured all next year I might revisit a couple of those though
Id keep Duman and Watson for depth. They might not be best 22 but we have seen how they were needed these past 2 years due to injuries
I agree about Banfield, Giro and Thomas - those ones are easier decisions for me.
I have some pause on Bewley simply because he has some really good traits and could end up being a fine player. One of the higher i50 hitting targets accuracy rates, good tank, big kick on him, works hard defensively. Repeated injuries would have him on my shortlist though.
Crowden is a tough one for me. I have a soft spot for him due to his ballistic play style (when he is up and about). But in all honesty his play this year makes it possible he will get moved on at years end and I wouldnt argue the point
So yes youre right - I can pick a few to move on, but my thought was that its not like in years past where I could easily have picked 6 or 7 without blinking. If I had to pick 4 it would be Hill (ret), Giro, Banfield, Thomas, and if it was 5 then id have a tough choice between Crowden and Bewley.
But then the question is if there is a player in the State leagues unquestionably better than them that can come in and make a difference right away. Crowden (and even Giro) monsters at WAFL level.
Like I said I back the list manager to make those choices because they have been bloody good in my opinion
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Yeah all good points. There are some tough decisions to be made but people need to realize that all the players I have mentioned are the most likely to get culled due to their availability/skill levels.
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The question is: is the 5th worst player on our list better than the 8th best option not on an AFL team?
I would say marginally yes, however the cultural impact of an extra delisting is probably what concerns management. So there's a negative impact that outweighs the benefit.
It's actually quite an interesting case of accounting for the intangibles. I don't have a strong opinion either way.
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This is the grumpy bus driver theory of list management. Some players look great in their first game. A lot more players take a few years to get it together and improve throughout their careers. You have no idea where these players will be in a few years. The coaches who work with them every day may have a better idea but if you talk to them you will find they aren't sure either. If they keep meeting milestones you would want to keep them on board.
I'm really glad you're not running the club. Dummy spits won't get us far.
IMHO You'd be freakin mad to ditch Hambling. We won't be challenging top teams until he's back on board.
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If you actually read my comment I said that all the injury prone players would probably be worth keeping for another year. If they can't get on the park than cut them.
The others would all be on the chopping board based on their output. None of the players I mentioned have stats above average and none would be in a premiership side. I guarantee you that the four players delisted at the end of the year will be from that list of names. So when that happens than you can crack on about how dummy spits won't get us far.
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I actually don't mind this at all. They have to make some strong list management decisions at the seasons end, this will help them work through some tough decisions.
Out of contract: Cerra, Conca, Crowden, Wilson, Hughes (A), Mundy, Bewley (A), Tucker, Meek, Thomas (B), Schultz (A), Hill, Colyer, Watson (A), Switkwoski, Banfield (A), Giro, Duman.
Schultz and Hughes deserve to be upgraded to the senior list. Mundy deserves an extension. Hopefully Cerra and Tucker sign on, but the rest should be playing for their careers.
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Yep I’d be doing everything to keep Cerra, Mundy and Tucker. Hilly I’m on the fence about, Hughes and Schultz no brainers to upgrade. Banfield can go, Duman can go, keep Switta and Conca. Colyer I’m on the fence
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I'm not against us cutting deep. It's an ideal time to do so with clubs bailing out of the draft so early.
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I was a bit perplexed why we wouldn’t take SOMEONE but ultimately we’ve got to trust our list managers.
Is the 9th pick in the mid season rookie draft gonna lift us? Unlikely. If we had a top pick we’d be silly to not take someone like Edwards, but otherwise it’s a serious shot in the dark on blokes that probably top out as B graders.
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You guys don't need another fringe player u need to target 1 genuine star fwd or def in off season n keep bleeding these kids on your list I'm a Richmond fan that was pained by list mgmt for many years your coach is ok he has a GAME plan looks good now players get used to gp n get exp executing it together you guys gcs Carl n pa n Bris gonna Dom comp in 3 years
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Thankyouuuu some people seem to think you can just pluck a super star out of state leagues but it certainly doesn’t work that way 😅
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Yeah because we are dripping with options right now across the field.
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I'm not sure why you're being downvoted on this. I'll probably get downvoted for agreeing with you. There's virtually no pressure for spots in our AFL side at present.
It's fact that we do not currently have a single Freo listed player at Peel Thunder bashing down the door demanding selection in the senior team. Alex Pearce will probably be the next player that'll come into the side from Peel, but even then he'd only be selected based on past form. We'd essentially be selecting an underdone and out of form player to come into the side out of desperation. Beside Pearce, there's literally no one deserving that's fit and available. There isn't a single player performing consistently at a level that would warrant selection based on merit and exposed form.
I think Walls has done a good job since he took over, but he has a hell of a lot of cleaning up to do yet.
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Western is.
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The grilling Hilly is copping on Facebook for not retiring and letting some magical wafl player come in and save our team... 🤡🤡
Thats a disgrace. Im slow to anger but that pisses me right off
On top of the fucking disrespect its ignorant. We dont need to have him retire so we can have a pick, we can just put a player with a season ending injury (Chappy, Sturt) on the long term injury list
I'm not about to be agest on him at all. He's only a week or so away from pulling the boots back on. We sure could use his experience composure about now!