Trump has been telling a number of people he’s in contact with that he expects he will get reinstated by August
Posted Jun 1, 2021, 1:11 PM UTC
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Sure, and he also fully expects to grow wings and ascend to Heaven by September, and to take over the job from God by March. 😴
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Trump is always telling on himself. I don’t think he’s going to be reinstated in August, but now I think it’s a possibility that he’s going to attempt another January 6th in August.
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Assuming this tweet is accurate, I think that’s exactly what he wants. I think he knows he barely has to do anything to fan the flames and his online dumdums will do all the work.
However, the problem for the cultists is they now have to set a concrete date. Not a “JFK Jr. is coming back!” date, but a real one, from the real calendar. And since they have a habit of organizing their fascist shit loudly and enthusiastically on free, public websites, they won’t be surprising anyone. They won’t get within a mile of wherever they plan to attack.
For something like this to work, an actual coup, this whole movement would have to go underground. Some of the militia guys might know how to do that, but the majority of Q cultists won’t be willing to because they would have to sacrifice the performative aspect of this whole LARP. Q is as much about attention-whoring and clout-chasing as it is murdering political opponents. That isn’t to say they aren’t dangerous—they are—and a large mob of them could hurt some people, but their entire communications (“coms” lol) apparatus is designed for entertaining lazy, passive fantasists, not direct action.
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I don't necessarily disagree with you but I still am a bit concerned because remember when almost every high-school in the US is more structurally secure than the US Capitol building?
The amount of cops/soldiers who are Trump supporters are concerning.
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The Jan 6th insurrectionists were allowed to get as far as hey did, because they had help on the inside, because capitol police were purposefully outnumbered, because DC police weren't allowed to interfere, because the National Guard was held back, because that's what Trump wanted.
Not gonna happen with Biden in the White House.
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To put it in more direct words, I don't trust the capital police to disperse them properly and I know I wouldn't want to be a guardsman if shooting started. I don't think presidential preferences will change that aspect. Like, I really hope the DNC's PR team is already drafting a brief for a massacre because I don't think there's any good outcome from that
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How much you wanna bet that when it goes south they’ll just blame it on aNtIfA and BLM again? All those chump loving “patriots” will just get accused of being a liberal and condemned, and ruin their own lives all for a lie.
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Lather, rinse, repeat.
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The race is on!
Daddy TrumTrum has to get the followers all riled up before the Manhattan Grand Jury comes back with the indictment list.
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Trump plants a story with MAGA Haberman, and the rubes fall over themselves to send him their social security checks.
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There's nothing in the constitution that allows anyone to 'reinstate' a former president. Anyone believing this absurd bullshit must be one of those Sovereign Citizen loons.
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What about some incredible massive fraud about the elections, both President and VP forced to leave office? New elections I guess? House speaker or party leader takes over? Im not American so it's just a hypothetical question, assuming he is being told his story is true and things will happen soon, surrounded by yes-men. And no I don't believe the election was rigged.
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If it is proven there was widespread fraud, there is no "take-backs". The Constitution doesn't have any method for redoing an election. What would happen would be unprecedented, but here's the baseline rules.
There is no precedent to just have a new election or overturn already certified elections. Biden and Harris would either have to resign or be impeached. They would only be impeached if it can be proven they knew and participated in the fraud, as removal from office would require 17 Democratic Senators to vote for impeachment. If Biden and Harris are impeached, then Nancy Pelosi is next in line. If she is impeached or resigns, Patrick Leahy (President pro tempore of the Senate) is next in line. If he's impeached or resigns, you start going through the Cabinet members, starting with oldest office to newest, skipping any ineligible Cabinet members. I'm assuming at least one of those Cabinet members would be "innocent" and not be impeached or resign. They would technically be President until the next election, or until a new VP is selected by Congress and then the Cabinet members can resign if they so choose or be impeached if Congress wishes.
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Thanks for the explanation. From what you wrote I can only see a potential hole in the part that congress picks a VP, but I imagine the potential candidates for a new VP to take over would never include a former president from the opposition, right? I asked the original question thinking Trump could be under some crazy impression that his election claims are true, the current president gets kicked out AND there's a way for him to get the seat, even if he needs 50 things to go exactly as planned.
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Honestly, it depends on what happens. If a lot of Democrats were in on the fraud, how many of them will be arrested and/or resign their positions? Just one Democratic Senator leaving the Senate gives control back to the GOP, and 7 Democrats leaving the House gives the House back to the Republicans. Undeniable proof that the Democrats stole the election would swing A LOT of support to the Republicans, and the Republican party obviously loves Trump. Depending on how it plays out, Democrats putting Trump back in might be their best play, especially if it's early enough that his reappointment counts as his second term (if Trump serves 2+ years if a term, that counts as a term for him and he's limited to 2 terms).
The Democratic party would be hurting for a while if such facts came out. So what would happen really depends on the fact pattern that comes out.
But you're right. Short if Trump being put into the line of succession (either through a Cabinet appointment, or Congress voting him in as a new VP and the President resigning), Trump can't just "take back" the Presidency.
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People he has told this to:
- The omelette chef at Mar-a-lago
- His dry cleaner
- The ball boy...
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A grifter's got a grift
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Funny I expect him to be indicted by August.
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Oh man imagine the grifting if that happens. The cult will donate every penny they have for a ‘legal defense fund’.
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I hope they do.
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A person who was unafraid of fraud charges might start a crowd funding campaign purporting to be for this very thing.
And then keep the money, of course.
Or better yet, donate it to BLM, Planned Parenthood and the DNC.
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Grifter pushing ideas that help him continue grift.
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You got a source for that Ms Haberman?
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Trump himself, probably.
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It does sound like something he would say everyone is saying.
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Not certifying what she's saying at all, but it's extremely common for journalists to report things like that without a source. If she were to drop a name, she would burn her source and they would be in hot water. Thus, always take claims like this with a grain of salt.
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She has her nose up the collective asses of the entire trump apparatus so I believe her when she says it. The question is more why she says it, instead of going "lol ok"
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Wouldn't you rather know about this than not know? I don't want to see a riot in August and be thinking "why didn't we know that this was being planned?"
Not that thinking "we've known about this for months, why didn't anyone do anything?" is much more comforting :/
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I feel Haberman speaking about it increases the chances of a riot rather than reducing them
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Clicks.
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And I’m sure he needs lots of donations to make it happen… the grift continues.
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Completely insane and stupid.
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I'm pretty sure trump is the one that has dementia. He's just babbling what the people around him are feeding him.
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Well I was saving for a new world order bunker... but if trump wants my money instead...
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This is a win-win. Either Trump is proven wrong showing himself to be unhinged, or he says he never said this lending credence to the fact that he will not be president for the next few years.
Though I guess the true believers would interpret the later as a wink wink like they have all of his other similar statements.
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Trump is proven wrong showing himself to be unhinged
That statement was true decades ago
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I thought at some point a guilty conscience or fear of looking like a complete scumbag the Trump grifting wing would step back to preserve some semblance of honor. I thought wrong. These dirtbags will say anything to keep their bogus fundraising operation up and running, decency be damned. As long as fools are willing to part with their money these swine will stop at nothing to pick the pockets of the fools who believe in them.
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I totally believe her. Not sure where the scepticism comes from. Sure, the sources are unknown, but that is how journalists operate. They risk their reputation by putting stuff like this forward if it doesn't hold water. Habermann is mainstream news. It's not like on rightwing media where you can claim any BS whatsoever without repercussions. In mainstream news if you get caught fabricating stuff, you are out of a job. This is what right wingers don't understand about mainstream news. They don't just make sh*t up. They may make mistakes, but when they do, they correct them.
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MAGA is the Trump Whisperer and lowkey gets his message out for him. She sucks.
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Haberman’s a little too chummy with the levers of power, but she’s usually pretty accurate and takes her job seriously. Whether or not Trump planted it himself, he’s fanning the Q flames and/or buying into the make-believe hype himself, like some bizarre feedback loop.
Either way, no good can come of this. It’s clear he’s fully surrounded by yes-men more than he ever has been- he’s probably on GA himself!
One of the biggest insights into the difference of the trump vs Biden administrations, was Dr fauci revealing that under Biden, it’s ok to say ‘I don’t know’.
On hearing that, I can absolutely believe trump surrounds himself with yes men, that will say anything to stay in their masters good books.
Trump has a history of clinging onto things that are impossible but in his mind make him look good or come out ahead
Hard disagree there. Not that good will definitely come of this, but that there is a possibility of good coming of this. The "good" is that one of the biggest threats to Republican power right now is Donald Trump, and if he becomes increasingly unhinged, it may actually result in them being unable to take back power in '22/'24.
That may come at a cost, but weighed against the potential cost of losing democracy, it might be worth it.
Republicans are largely committed to these antics but you’re right, going full conspiracy scares off the suburbs. Democrats are going to use MTG to say: “See? Look how insane the GOP is”
Trump will start up his rallies this month, and it seems like he's going to be even more unhinged as he believes a return to power is imminent while the legal system starts to close in on him. Who the fuck knows where he'll be, mentally, a year from now. Meanwhile, he's going to demand--and receive--total loyalty from anyone running in a GOP primary.
We've gotten used to him fading from view, but he's going to come roaring back with his rallies. He won't receive the same amount of coverage on the left, but it will be enormously influential on the Right.
I'm not so sure we'll need MTG.
In 2016, people saw Trump’s nomination in a very similar light. Then he won.
I hope you’re right, but I’m skeptical.
It's not 2016 anymore. Today Trump's mask is fully off. Everyone knows who and what he is.
Do they? Millions of people voted for him in 2020. Some who hadn't in 2016, in fact. If the mask is off, it's clear a lot of people like what's underneath.
Couple that with the voter suppression bills being pushed in a lot of red states and the future doesn't look so rosy. I hope you're right, but we are gonna need to vote like hell in 2022. Can't get complacent.
The thing is, a lot of people likes what they see even if the mask is off.
In 2020, plenty of people thought Trump would win. Then he didn't.
In 2016, Trump had no political track record and was more of a wildcard. A lot of voters in the center had no idea how he'd actually be as a President. People were tired of same old politics and that's what Clinton represented.
Trump has a record to scrutinize now. We know what he's capable of and what kind of President he would be.
Its a shame he's not been put in handcuffs already.