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zhawk55

Fallout game set in NYC and the area around it?

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What would you guys think of a fallout game set in New York city and the area aroubd it? I think it would be very asthetically pleasing and could make for some great lore. Let my know what you think.

Posted Jun 4, 2021, 2:09 PM UTC

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Overdue-Karma•

NYC got nuked (as did all of the USA) but that doesn't mean it can't be used. Obviously it got hit because all of the USA got hit by nukes. NYC was originally going to be put down for Fallout 4's location, and honestly it probably would've been better personally.

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zhawk55OPNCR•

A agree, NYC would go great with the americana asthetic and maybe even have a noir vibe which is something the franchise hasn't seen.

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DreingonMagala•

The only noir we got was silver shroud ?

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043AdmirerGary?•

Isn't the statue of liberty also still standing canonically? There is a wiki page for it plus I've heard it come up as canon in a few discussions

Would be a cool settlement location or something among those lines, certainly better than a nuclear bomb crater, baseball field, or broken down aircraft carrier

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Overdue-Karma•

Could be fun to see people holed up inside the statue of liberty, but yeah, NYC would have so many locations to choose from, and lots of faction potential.

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043AdmirerGary?•

I'm just hoping New York isn't just glowing sea

Honestly wouldn't be surprised if all of New York is nuked considering NYC would be a hotspot, probably.

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Deer-Antler•

I think NYC is a bit overused as a setting for post-apocalyptic games/movies. It’d be cool to see what the city looks like in the fallout universe and what kind of mutations occurred from being directly hit but I’d rather them explore New Orleans.

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ShadowyPepper•

I feel like NYC probably got blasted tbh but idk it could be kind of cool. Bethesda has never been fantastic with building interiors and making them work though IMO and I feel like too much of that area would need to be focused on that as much as the outdoor area.

As Americana as Fallout is I would love to see one set in a different country.

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Overdue-Karma•

Fallout has an odd problem of being "totally set" in the USA and not mentioning other nations, because apparently a nuclear war can only affect two nations (not how nuclear war works).

It would be nice to see Europe or perhaps China itself, but then only the USA has Power Armour...until 76 was like "Nope now the Chinese had their own power armour".

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August_Bebel•

Some kind of US owned islands would work. Still US, but exotic.

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Overdue-Karma•

Like the Caribbean or something like that, could work. Hell, Cuba would be a funny idea. The US has a lot of islands that could work, and I'd love to see some truly scary underwater moments. They could have you walk through some underwater tunnel and see a gigantic shadow swim across, indicating just how deadly the oceans are.

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Verdun3ishop•

yeah we don't know if the US gained Puerto Rico in the FO timeline. Would seem the best known of their Carib holdings.

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ShadowyPepper•

That’s a good point. Besides annexing Canada (?) and the tensions with China we really don’t see or hear about anywhere else despite Cait having a full blown Irish accent. (Off topic but I never understood that)

A FNV tie in with Mexico would’ve been cool. Could you imagine Fallout: Mexico City? Shit would be wild.

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Overdue-Karma•

For example, a lot of people speculate that the war is only between China and the USA, the nuclear war anyways. But we know from FH and such that the sea is fucked with all kinds of mutated wildlife. So that's likely spread the nuclear fallout vast distances especially with THOUSANDS of ICBM's hitting both China and the USA.

Mexico does sound cool, because we know Raul came from Mexico, and that there's more ghoul(?) places around there. Hell, there could be some kind of Alamo references since Fallout loves movie references at times.

However one thing someone did say is how Tenpenny came to the USA. It implies that, at least, Europe must be functioning enough that people can go to the USA, yet Tenpenny even says Europe is 'worse off' than Washington DC. That just makes no sense.

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ShadowyPepper•

Keeping in mind with that first bit too is that the Atlantic Ocean is the only one we really see. With a US-China war we’d likely see even more damage and mutation in the Pacific Ocean from nukes hitting China and the West Coast.

Forgot about Raul being from Mexico, could’ve been neat. I’d especially like to see more global architecture explored, imagine post-apocalyptic France as well, it would be cool.

Tenpenny coming to the US is wild, he would’ve either had to fly or boat over from Europe which would mean we still have working planes (feasible from the Boomers), or he took a boat across the immensely radioactively fucked up Atlantic Ocean.

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zhawk55OPNCR•

Now that I this about it, mexico would be cool. The western/desert vibe goes really well with fallout

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Verdun3ishop•

In FO3 they explained in the book or interviews that Ten Penny is English and thus his accent, he and others moved across somehow as the wasteland in the US is a better place to be than the wasteland in Europe.

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_Jemma_•

Originally Fallout 4 was going to be set in NYC, they did some early design work on it and kept it so NYC is a likely next Fallout location.

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Verdun3ishop•

Seems strange they didn't do any world building for it though. We had Boston set up with Synths and the Institute from FO3, NYC only got "some very tall buildings" in 4 lol

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_Jemma_•

They did a design document and some preliminaries, but that's about it. I'd love to see the Fallout world's NYC

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Verdun3ishop•

Yeah I don't think they went very far with it at the time, I'd expect them to have given some bread crumbs at least if they had.

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Verdun3ishop•

Would expect it would require a system like FO3 did for DC. City wont be open but sectioned off and require going through ruins/subways to get in and around most of it. Would solve the issue of the size of the city for the scale of maps Bethesda can make.

I'd also expect if they did cover it to see the BoS be the main faction again, can imagine using the airship and v-birds to explore the large scale buildings. We haven't had anyone passing by note other factions in the region.

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mhem7•

I don't know, with fallout 3 and 4 both being east coast, I kind of have my heart set on New Orleans or maybe even Miami if you have to go Atlantic again. A change in culture would be neat. Shoot, maybe even Colorado springs area. It's like nuke city there with a presidential bunker, the air force academy, cave of the winds and more.

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sonic-leVault 111•

I'd be down for that it'd be interesting and could have some really cool places to explore but I'd love a fallout game in a different place. I'd love one in Florida or something now I'm just thinking of Orlando and it having theme parks with 2 opposing factions that deify the cartoon characters that were there.

But NYC is a solid idea.

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1984-is_here•

I would like to see s Fallout London, just for something a bit different.

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zhawk55OPNCR•

I never thought of that as a setting for fallout but now that I think of it that would be cool.

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1984-is_here•

I live in London but, I didn't chose it for that reason. I wouldn't mind anywhere that is not in America. Nothing against American's or America, just a different change that's all.

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zhawk55OPNCR•

I agree, a setting outside of america would be a welcome change for the fallout franchise and could potentially expand the lore in an interesting way.

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1984-is_here•

I think of all the. secrets you could potentially find out about one another's intelligence service. Also the potential tech that could have been shared but then altered in different ways by different countries.

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CaptainSlappyBearBrotherhood•

I'm still reading through the lore of the series. I've only played 4 and 76, but from what I think I've gathered, isn't NYC just a huge radiated hole?

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_Jemma_•

No it isn't.

It's hit by at least one bomb but there's nothing canon about it being destroyed.

It is listed as 'gone' in a terminal entry in (I think) Far Harbor but then so is Boston and DC.

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zhawk55OPNCR•

Where did you hear that, because I belive there was a post on this sub recently debunking that.

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Overdue-Karma•

We see a terminal in the Nucleus list that Washington DC, Boston and NYC were hit by nukes. I presume this is a pre-war terminal (haven't read it myself yet), but if it's pre-war, then it's fine for it to say these cities are 'gone', everyone would be dead or in Vaults...or mutants.

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CaptainSlappyBearBrotherhood•

That I remember reading on one of their Wikia's a while ago.

I would like to see a NYC but above all else I want FO5 in the New Orleans area. That place just screams Fallout!

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LethemyrMr. House•

No reason there couldn’t be a game based in an irradiated hole.

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August_Bebel•

After learning that unimportant Las Vegas was targeted with 77 nukes, I think there is no NYC, only the York crater.

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WallRavioli•

Las Vegas and the surrounding area were targeted with 77 nukes.

The surrounding area includes Giant Secret Military Bases where they used to test nukes, so it's not exactly nothing.

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NotGettingMyEmail•

No comrade, Vegas spiritual center of filthy American Capitalism with many pig in casino. Has to bomb most for glory of Proletariat. New Yorks close second, but lots of slaved workers in New Yorks means we bomb only 50 times.

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No_Interaction4027•

I’d go with Chicago purely because of my love of both the enclave and Fall Out Boy

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zhawk55OPNCR•

I'm from new york as well.

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ChalkAndIce•

I think that we have half a dozen discussions like this every week. People should try scrolling down a bit or typing in the search bar.

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IRoyalClown•

Yes, but new people always answer. That is the point, to have many perspectives on the same discussion.

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