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Bernese Method Help

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I am going to start the Bernese method tomorrow. I sniff 1-1.5g of fenta-dope per day (unknown how much fentanyl is in it but I'm fairly certain there isn't heroin in this). I plan to start with 0.2mg of Suboxone on Day 1, 0.2mg on Day 2, and slightly increase the following days while lowering my dope usage.

My question is... Do you take the bupe BEFORE you start using your dope that day? Or can I wake up, do my usual line or 2, introduce 0.2mg, and then slowly increase by the day?

Edit: I'm using the guide in "Box 1" from this website: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6970598/#:%7E:text=Officially%20recognized%20as%20the%20Bernese,over%20time%20(Box%201)

I took the subs and folded and tore them into 8 1mg pieces that are the exact same size. Took 0.5mg on day 1, day 2 I took 0.5mg in the morning and 0.5mg at night. Day 3 (today) I took 1mg in the morning and took 1mg again an hour ago. Every morning I wake up and do a line of the fentadope I have, wait an hour and then take the dose the guide says to on that day. I then wait an hour after taking the sub to do any more dope. I've experienced 0 withdrawal/precipitated wd symptoms (besides MAYBE minor sweating? Could just be the heat tbh). I feel great and am extremely hopeful about this. Will continue to update.

Posted Jun 6, 2021, 1:34 PM UTC · edited

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ak19bld3 Months Clean•

I would say do the small dose of buprenorphine first, wait about 15 minutes, and then hit the dope.

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msfancy88•

I always wonder how you get such small doses of suboxone... can someone answer that for me

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Catradorra•

You cut them into portions

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bubba2260•

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6970598/#:~:text=Officially%20recognized%20as%20the%20Bernese,over%20time%20(Box%201).

Hope this helps.

Keep in mind this method's inception was for methadone, not fentanyl materials. If you type 'Burnese Method with fentanyl ' in the search box next to suboxone, older threads will pop up . In those threads you should find useful information on using it with the fentanyl laced materials. Best of luck

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goodtimegracie•

That’s the point of the Bernese Method. You take such small doses and increase them steadily in small increments, and you avoid withdrawals and precipitated withdrawals.

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rje37040Here Comes the Sun •

You won’t feel the WD from the sub for about two hours, wait about an hour after you take the sub to dose, and dose just enough that the wd feeling stays away as you move up. You can click my name a read the post I’ve made about the Bernese method. I’ve used it three times to get clean.

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ashopry•

This. thank u

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rje37040Here Comes the Sun •

Yeah I think they only time I felt anything was on the 4th day. I had a minor cold hot flash and that was it. Great job. Doing it the smart way

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rje37040Here Comes the Sun •

Yeah you won’t, by the time you make it to day 7 you have so much bupe in your system the door isn’t really even binding. And that’s basically how it works, just slowly replace the dope with bupe and it saves your receptors from getting that shock of having the full antagonist ripped out which is what causes the PWD.

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rje37040Here Comes the Sun •

I will say that you need to make sure you stick with it though cause I’ve had a couple relapses and each time it works not as good as the first time. The third time I did it I was actually experiencing some pretty good withdrawals. So it’s like don’t take it for granted. And also what I did was once I felt good on just the sub for a few days I immediately dropped down to 2 mg daily instead of staying at a high level, and about a month later I stopped and used kratom for the minor with drawls for about a week and then I was free and clear without any really bad withdrawals, worst was just a little lethargy and hot and cold but I was still able to go to work and be a normal human lol

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Potaspoonnk•

Do it. This will be the turning point in your life

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deezhuntz•

How did this go? I’m about to start the process myself and I have a very similar habit as you do

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deezhuntz•

Dude thank you so much for telling me this. It gives me some hope! Do you mind if I ask to what degree your habit was?

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deezhuntz•

Gotcha. It’s hard to guess worst mine is because I’m taking blues which you never know the strength of every single one

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