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LagoReal

Am I Dreaming? 25. 0 IQ Car Knowledge. Want a 2021 3.0 Supra.

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Currently own a 2007 cobolt. Want a 3.0 Supra. Have close to 0 knowledge about cars. Also 0 knowledge of buying a car or negotiating with dealers.

Got no garage so it will be outside. Also pretty bad with getting the oil changed when it's supposed to be. Will probably drive with wrong or low tire pressure. Might take it to get washed once every two months. I don't know how to even use the paddle shifters or when to shift etc. Big time neglective owner. Only because the car I have right now I don't give a crap about it. It can die tomorrow and I have the money to go buy something new.

Is this car friendly to big time newbies? Like so I have to know about optimal temps before I go fast, after it's broken in? Is there stuff that you have to do once you get the car for longevity purposes?

NOW being realistic, I'm into cars at a basic level and what looks good and stuff. But just know nothing about an engine and technical terms. If I got the car, I straight up would be so into keeping it clean and on top of basic maintenance and such, so what I said before is just cause I don't give a shit about my 3k cobolt. Also in the time before I get the car, I would be doing as much learning as I can. I'm not brain dead, just my current car I neglect pretty bad. This car would totally change the way I take care of it. Also I have a ex pro race car driver who I am friendly with, who now builds and works on cars (owns a Ferrari) so I wouldn't be left in the dirt with no help on how to use the car the best or help on maintenance.

So the one I built on the website is like 57,000 MSRP. I would probably put 40000 down on it. I would also like to add, I'm not like a brain dead kid. Getting this car would probably make me become a car geek. Knowing everything. I would want to learn as much as I can, because I straight up want to have this car forever.

So is this car for veterans, or can a newbie kid get this and learn on the way?

Also this sub is sick, and you guys have awesome supras here! Love all your work and dedication.

Posted Jun 10, 2021, 6:46 PM UTC · edited

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lowhighsly•

You probably don’t want a 50k+ Supra if you’re going to neglect it….

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LagoRealOP•

I got no girl yet, I totally wouldn't neglect it. Just used that as a worse case scenario. Because my current car I barely drive and don't take cae of it.

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OneSquirtBurt21 Supra 3.0 matte grey•

This car is a dick magnet, I wouldn't get it to find a girl.

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LagoRealOP•

Haha that's totally not what I'm saying. I'm not a show off at all. Like I would never rev my engine to look cool. That's funny though. Dick magnet lmao.

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unknowndeus•

Wow, I'd just get the GR86, you don't seem mature enough to own a $50k+ 400hp car.

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LagoRealOP•

Your probably right, but not really. I really have the intention of giving it my full attention, of keeping it clean and keeping up with maintenance. Just the thing is, idk when's the best time to go for maintenance. Or how or what's best to keep it clean. Like it's going to sit out in the rain, I'm not sure what best to prevent rust in that situation.

This thing will make me mature enough real fast guaranteed. But your right,. I definitely don't have the experience to maintain a 50k car yet. But should that stop me? It doesn't seem all that hard to learn if I really want to learn. Just before I didn't have a car to give a shit about, so I never learned mechanic type stuff.

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ScottyTrick•

It's not going to rust in the rain.

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LagoRealOP•

Like even over the years of being in the rain?

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sliferkiller•

the body won't usually rust much unless you get deep scratches, or paint chips. The underbody will get rusty if you live in an area that snows during the winter and they salt the road. pretty u preventable except for doing rust proofing when you first get the car. but even those aren't guaranteed to rust proof your car. Rust will happen. For the body just try to touch up chips or scratches asap, remove all rust first

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Mehster79•

Please don’t buy one of these and leave it outside in the elements. :(

As far as the rest of your questions, I’ve had my 2020 3.0 LE since launch day. The maintenance is easy and nothing above any other car. It can be BMW expensive though depending on where you service it - $150 oil changes, etc. Follow the break in period in the manual if you are concerned with longevity. The B58 engine is stout, proven and reliable.

You can thrash it all day and you don’t have to worry too much about temps. That’s simply not a thing you have to worry about unless you want to track it or it’s like 100 degrees out and you are repeatedly doing 0-60 pulls. It’s very easy to drive and anyone could drive it... If you leave the driving nannies on, it’s quite safe and you won’t be upsetting the rear end under any conditions. In normal driving mode it’s mild mannered like any other luxury sports car. Sport mode is a whole other animal…

Be careful with the go pedal. It is very quick and just a couple extra seconds on the throttle and you will be in lose your license territory. I got my first wake up call with a fat speeding ticket the other day. With great power comes great responsibility.

My advice is to leave the paddle shifter alone for a while and dip your toes in slowly. I came from a manual FR-S and even though I’m used to manual shifting, a sequential gear box takes a little while to get used to and feel out which gear the car likes to be in and when to shift. The cars transmission will protect you from doing anything stupid.

My only advice on purchasing one is bring your own financing before you are ready to buy. They tend to not give you good deals on interest rates with low production cars with the dealer financing. If you put down 40k it will be less of a concern. Have fun and good luck!

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LagoRealOP•

Yeah I really don't want to leave it outside. But for the winter I will rent a garage and buy a little POS pick up truck. But for rain, it's gonna get wet during the spring and summer. I live in NJ, so you think rust will be a concern? I definitely won't see any salt from winter conditions. I can definitely do 150 oil changes for sure. Glad to hear it's easy to drive, will definitely watch the speed. Will have someone teach me the paddle shifting, when and when not to.

Also yeah I was told to finance else where and not the dealer. But thanks for reassuring me on that.

Appreciate your time. Thanks alot.

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sliferkiller•

im sure you'll take care of it if jts a car you like.. Just remember the basic 6 month maintenance (doesn't have to be exact but don't go like 2 years without any maintenance)

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LagoRealOP•

Like so, 4 to 6 months what type of maintenance would I do, if you do mind taking your time to answer?

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sliferkiller•

Dont personally own a supra, but basically its a good guide to follow the owners manual. Its good to stick with what it says until warranty is up in my opinion. With it being more of a German car than a Japanese car, it might be best to stick with what the owners manual says. But mostly keep up to date with oil changes for sure or any fluid changes.

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LagoRealOP•

Ok. Study the manual. Got it. I read everyday trying to learn Quantum Physics. So this will be easy for me. Thanks though. I wouldn't have even known to read it.

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mattisoverhere•

I would start with something else first and try your best to start forming some new habits as far as keeping it maintained. It's a Beemer AND a turbo car, if you don't keep up with maintenance, you're gonna ruin it.

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LagoRealOP•

This is probably the best idea.

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mattisoverhere•

Maybe look into the Toyota 86 or Subaru BRZ. There's a bunch of good options that would be a cheaper car for you to learn on or to just make better maintenance schedule. Not speaking for all dealerships and mechanics there, but not all of them know a lot about the new supras. Whatever you end up doing, I hope you do geek out!

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LagoRealOP•

Yeah I was thinking about a BRZ. I could easily just buy it instead of having to finance. But you know how it is. Supra is a dream and I wanna live it lol. Thank you though. I'm a geek when it comes to science and spirituality. So I really wanna start geeking out on a car that I love. Don't wanna be driving this Cobolt anywhere when I can afford something sexy. Have a good one.

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ceniceros22•

Go visit r/AutoDetailing to learn how to care for your car exterior if you’re going to leave it outside. I don’t have a garage to store mine, but I ceramic coat it once a season and give it a thorough wash and wax every other week. Don’t turn the traction control off, it’ll spin the back wheels pretty easily if you floor it. And to take a page from motorcyclists, drive your own drive. You’ll get modified civics, toyabarus, WRXs, etc wanting to race. Just ignore them or get out of their way so you can keep your license and keep yourself safe.

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hefecantswim•

Hold on, please clarify: I get mine ceramic-coated every 6 months by a professional and I was under the impression that it shouldn't be waxed.. and if it's waxed it should not be ceramic coated. How long have you been doing this?

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ceniceros22•

About a year now. No ill effects so far. But I’m also using a spray wax instead of proper wax. And I’m also a redditor and not a professional, so maybe listen to that guy instead lol

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hefecantswim•

Well in any case, thanks for the subreddit tip. I'll investigate further 🤜💥🤛

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LagoRealOP•

Oh ok sweet I'll check the sub out. So a ceramic coat huh? That is noted. Much appreciated. I will definitely do my best to wax and wash it. I have a close family friend that is always outside washing his car so I plan on just chilling with him and waxing and washing it. I'm definitely not experienced enough to take traction control off. Not on a street at least. Maybe in a big open parking lot. Your the man though, thanks for the reply.

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pinkypluu•

2021 3.0 owner here. As far as maintaining it, it's not very demanding unless you get the phantom matte paint ( have to be careful not to damage it)The car comes with a lot of diagnostic systems that warn you if you need any fields change ( you have to check it yourself so it doesn't go into critical stage). Other than this, I would not do any maintenance by yourself.Like everyone says, it's more bmw than toyota, and bmw hates it when you do stuff yourself. I wouldn't risk it until you get more experienced. You should take good care of it, bc at the end of the day it's a supra, and everyone want to see a well maintained supra. Other than that, be careful when driving. It's very powerful and extremely fast, even the stock ones. So you might need to take it easy when driving it at first. The car comes with amazing modern safety features and you can easily daily it( except for winter) I would go see it in person and try test drive it.

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LagoRealOP•

I plan on getting the white one. Is that phantom matte paint? Also are you an experienced car owner of real nice cars? Like did you read the manual of how to check all diagnostics? Or you just a pro and know how to? I totally would never do maintenance on it by myself. Don't know the first thing about it. I honestly will take great care of it. I only said all that neglective stuff because I have a car thats a piece of crap. I have a motorcycle I take great care of. Store it in the winter which I plan on doing for the Supra as well. Thanks for your response though.

Can I add you? For any questions I might have in the future? Could definitely use someone to ask some questions to, especially who has the same car. I want to learn everything I can. Also are you doing any work to it? Plan on putting a good amount of money into it over the years.

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pinkypluu•

Sure, you can add me. I can help you out. I can answer all of the other stuff in private dms. Sorry I didn't reply right away :P

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Fun_Day_7530•

If/when you buy this -please post pics, I need more Supra porn until I get mine.

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LagoRealOP•

Still got a lot of thinking to do. But yes, if I do get it I'll share it here. Not one to show off on Snapchat or insta. So this may be the only appropriate place that I can show off. Take care brother.

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APanoWRX20’ MKV•

I’d check up the MKV forums and browse things like maintenance/issues section and also other things people on the forum say. I say take one for a test drive whether it’s from a dealer or using an app like turo to rent one for a day or two. It rides really smooth, sounds aggressive when you’re in sport mode and is overall pretty nice for a sports car. The only things I personally don’t like about it is the wind buffeting (loud wind noise that happens when you drive 35/40mph+ with the windows down (I’d suggest looking up a YouTube video about it))

Edit: They designed this car to be for both pros and newbies. If you crave more power than stock mods/tuning can get you easy power. The car is plenty fast from the factory and will spin tires. Overall really great car to get imo.

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LagoRealOP•

Is there a specific forum you have in mind? Or just any MKV forum? I will go to any for sure. I want to know as much as possible. Just scrolling through this reddit, I see people complaining about the wind buffeting. I guess I will have to get that addressed right away because I am a windows down type of guy over AC. Your last paragraph gives me some relief. I am definitely a newbie. But I learn quick and got money to spend, so I feel like I won't be a newbie for much longer even before I go through with a purchase.

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APanoWRX20’ MKV•

Supramkv.com is the main site to go. The wind buffetting can be fixed easily. If you want a small cheap piece that you stick on with 3m tape on the pillar they have them for $5-10or a nice carbon fiber one for $175-200

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LagoRealOP•

Yeah got eager and already found my way to supramkv and looked at the FAQ and learned about the CGI material composition they used to build the engine. Learned that Tetsuya Tada was the chief engineer. So I'm on my way to know it all lol. Thanks to you of course. So I greatly appreciate it man. I will definitely go with the carbon fiber ones. I usually never go cheap on anything. Which is not always a good thing.

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APanoWRX20’ MKV•

I put the carbon ones on mine, looks great and works too.

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6sixgod24•

Lol get the car man, I’m 25 just got one and don’t regret it.

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seabae336•

Yeah, no. You need to change the oil on it religiously cause if you don't you'll blow it up. Just don't.

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LagoRealOP•

Religiously, as in more far more often then a usual car? Or you mean religiously as in, you gotta do it on time and or earlier, rather then later?

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seabae336•

On time and earlier. More often wouldn't hurt either.

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LagoRealOP•

Then this I will do. Thank you.

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King_Kasma99•

Make sure u have enough money to sustain it like tax , a lot of gas (3.0L In the end) , maintance , new brake parts when U use them a lot , new tires, U maybe want to tune it (basic lvl so just looks, with new rims and small other things)

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LagoRealOP•

What do people mean like with tax? Theres tax after you buy it? So a 3.0 use a lot of gas? I really don't plan on going to fast, also I'm in a truck a lot, and the driver is big on not using the brakes and slowing down way before hand. So I learned quite a bit. I plan on being pretty damn conscious of everything. Thanks for your reply though.

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King_Kasma99•

I don't know how it is in other countries, in Germany U pay tax every year. Yes the bigger the volume of the engine the more gas Is burned, and a 3L volume is compared to other cars a lot (sure there are things mostly made in the USA with a lot more) but compared to normie cars 3L is a lot

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LagoRealOP•

Oh ok thanks for the info. Appreciate it.

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