Basic Game

In an attempt to draw traffic to this subreddit I am accumulating information from another forum I used to frequent and posting it on here. To my knowledge Reddit lacks any sort of girl help or advice sections so this is my attempt to start one. Hopefully this will attract more people to post their own guides and bring their own expertise to the table. If there is a current subreddit already established elsewhere please post and let me know.

I guess I have to start from the bottom and work up. Here goes the Idiots Guide to Developing Game: A. Confidence: Before you EVER go out and talk to a woman, before you even leave your house, you have to be confident. I cannot emphasize this enough. You do not have to be Tucker Max, but you must have some minimal level of self-assuredness and self-awareness. If you are weak or unsure, the woman will see it almost immediately and will almost always be put off by it. Nothing smells worse to a woman than desperation. How can you be confident? That's like asking how you can be creative. There is no definitive answer. Confidence comes from within, comes from an understanding and acceptance of who you are and a belief in yourself and your abilities. If you have nothing good about yourself to believe in, then find something or do something that can give you that belief. Seriously--develop a skill or talent that you are proud of. Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING flows from your inner self. It is the foundation that all game is built upon. Some guys have good things about them, but they can't find the courage to believe in themselves. I can understand this, it happened to me when I was playing high school basketball. I was good, but I grew up playing unorganized playground ball until high school, and never really played to the level I should have during varsity practice because I was never comfortable. I didn't have confidence in my game. That all changed one day. We were having a shitty shitty practice, everything was fucked up, and the coach decided to scrimmage, but instead of a normal scrimmage, each one of us would "imitate" another player on the team. We would be someone else, the point being to show people how they play, so people could look at themselves and see their weaknesses displayed in another player. I was assigned to be Brian Meeney, our star and an eventual D1 player at Long Island University. I pretended I was him. I lost my inhibitions, I forgot what I was "supposed" to be good at and what my weaknesses were "supposed" to be, and played completely out of my fucking mind--because that's how he played. The best game I'd ever had, EVER, to that point in my life in an organized setting. I dominated the scrimmage. Everyone was shocked, the coach included, and he told me that if that was what it took, I should pretend to be Brian all the time. I didn't have to keep pretending, because that one practice was all it took and I eventually started playing. The lesson: Develop confidence in yourself. If you cannot develop confidence on your own, if you don't know what to do, then the next time you find yourself in a situation where you would normally back down or puss out or whatever, pretend you are someone else you respect. Pretend you are me. What would Tucker do? Then go ahead and do it. Go talk to that girl, drink that drink, etc. I am the single greatest example of how confidence conquers. Do I have talent? Yes, but it's not that great, there are plenty more with greater talent than me. Am I good looking? I'm alright, but again, nothing special. So what is it that separates me from everyone else? What makes me me? Why am I going to be rich and famous, and so many others that have more talent and looks won't be? Complete, utter, unshakable confidence in myself, confidence that is so high it borders on delusional hubris. Everything starts there. All of my other attributes have their foundation in my supreme egotism. Mark Twain, probably the greatest American writer ever, said it best, "With ignorance and arrogance, success is assured." If you sit down and always consider all the possibilities, if you waste your time worrying what others will think, if you ponder whether or not you are good enough, then you never will be. You know how many times in my life I have gotten something or achieved something because I tried where others begged off, because I threw my hat in the ring when others kept theirs on their head? You know how many hot girls I have gotten because I went up and talked to them, while everyone else was scared of them? Yes I have game, but my game is worthless sitting alone at a table. It takes balls to approach a hot girl or to put your life on the internet, and friends, I have two huge ones, and this is why I am a winner and will always be a winner. It doesn't take huge balls, but achievement does require a belief in yourself and a willingness to take risks. There is no way to cheat that part of the system. ONE IMPORTANT THING: Confidence without ability is little more than arrogant pomposity. I am not advocating that you go out and try and do what I do, unless you have my game. It is important that you be yourself, that you do what comes natural for you, that you don't step onto a court that you don't have the game to play on. I used to play b-ball at these outdoor courts, where there were like four courts lined up in a row. Court 1 was the best players, Court 4 were the complete scrubs, and 2 and 3 there were somewhere in between. I started on Court 4, because I wasn't good enough for 1, 2, or 3. Even though I was confident in myself, I knew my limits and I understood who I was, which at that point was a crappy basketball player. I eventually became a regular on Court 1, but it took time and dedication. At it's core, confidence comes from the internal belief that you can accomplish the task at hand, so in some ways, this is a Catch 22 for guys without game. How can you get confidence with having game? Trial and error. Follow my instructions below, and go out and talk to women and you will get better, believe in yourself more, and thereby get even better. Nothing helps you improve like a positive feedback loop. --OK, so now you have confidence, but confidence by itself means nothing if you are sitting at home alone. Where do you go from there? B. Make yourself presentable: You do not have to be some idiotic guido who is vain beyond Naomi Campbell levels, but at least have a minimal level of cleanliness, hygiene, and fashion. If you do not have a good sense of style, that's fine, just wear the same nondescript things that every other guy does. I dress as non-descript as possible, and it works fine. This is pretty easy to accomplish, but you'd be surprised how many guys fuck it up. Well, girls wouldn't, because they see it. You don't need to win girls with your looks or style, but your goal should be to at least not lose anyone because of how you are dressed. If you are unsure how to dress, go out, look at what the successful guys are wearing, and copy them until you develop your own style. Alright, you are confident, dressed reasonably well, so what now? C. Talk to women: Seems basic doesn't it--but guess what? Most guys just go out and sip beers with their friends and don't do shit. You can't get big without lifting weight, you can't get fast without running sprints, and you can't have game without talking to women. This of course begs the question, "How?" I am going to assume that you know the woman. This is a thread on beginning game, and I never ask beginners to go out and pick up women on their own. How to approach and pick up women is medium level game, and we'll cover that another time, here we are going to assume that you know the woman or have been introduced in some way or another, and are past the introductory phases. You are a relatively confident, decently dressed guy, and you have the attention of the woman. Guess what--you are at least half way there. The problem is that from this point forward, you are kinda on your own. I cannot script a conversation for you, and I cannot tell you what to talk about. A conversation is a dynamic, organic thing. What I can do is tell you how to talk to a woman, but not necessarily what to talk about. Be attentive: When you are talking to a woman, pay attention to her. Listen to what they say, don't just wait for your turn to speak. Engage them on the topic, do not just blabber on about what you want to talk about. BUT--do not take this too far. DO NOT fawn over her, and DO NOT act like she is your universe. On the other hand, you can play it nonchalant and cool, but even if you do that, make it clear you are interested in the conversation and you enjoy talking to her (If you don't enjoy talking to her, then don't talk to her. If you are just talking to her to get laid, then fake it). Do not focus on yourself, unless it's natural: Most people, especially guys, do this; they continually talk about themselves and always relate the topic at hand back to themselves. This is because most people are blindly self-centered, and don't even realize what they are doing. Avoid doing this. Women generally HATE guys who just drone on about themselves. Focus on her or on mutually interesting topics, and talk about yourself only if it is natural to the conversation. Make the conversation about a topic, not about yourself.

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