Why You Shouldn't buy a 2021 non OLED LG TV | No to Nanocell, QNED, or a UP series.

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Why You Shouldn't buy a 2021 non OLED LG TV | No to Nanocell, QNED, or a UP series.

LG really is using marketing to get people to buy them.

LG is following Samsung with Bullshit Marketing to make their non OLED Televisions sound attractive to buyers.


  • Why you shouldn't buy the 2021 LG QNED | QNED85 or QNED90

LG's QNED is a bullshit & deceptive marketing term & practice. LG's version of a QNED is a Mini LED backlit TV w/ a Nanocell Filter that's it. TCL already makes MiniLED and so will Samsung. This is a delibrate tactic to make you thing it is the QNED that Samsung Display is developing which is an OLED Killer. see HDTVTest - LG Clarifies QNED Mini LED TV Plans Following Trademark Application Setback

LG QNED85 vs The Competition

Awaiting Reviews/Under Construction

LG QNED90 vs The Competition

Awaiting Reviews/Under Construction


  • Why you shouldn't buy the 2021 LG Nanocell | Nano75, Nano80, or Nano90

Nanocell is just a light absorbing filter in the panel. Its a competitor to Samsung's QLED & Sony's Triluminous.

Too bad all the "Nanocell" TV's are IPS based panels. Major fail on LG's part

While IPS has a slightly better viewing angle then a traditional VA panel, its contrast & black uniformity is poor in comparison to VA.

Samsung & Sony have also introduced Wide Angle VA panels that will be better then an IPS panel but not as good as a traditional VA as a more middle ground approach.

LG NANO75 vs The Competition

Awaiting Reviews/Under Construction

LG NANO80 vs The Competition

Awaiting Reviews/Under Construction

LG NANO90 vs The Competition

Full Rtings Review - LG NANO90

Bottom Line (Rtings): "It has an IPS panel with fairly wide viewing angles, but it's not as good as most IPS panels because the image starts to look darker when viewing from an angle. It also has low native contrast, so blacks look gray, and the local dimming feature crushes any bright highlights, so it doesn't improve the picture quality."

Rtings: "Value for price beaten by: Vizio OLED 2020"

Rtings: "The LG NANO90 is okay for watching movies. It has an IPS panel with a low contrast ratio that makes blacks look gray, so it's not good for viewing movies in dark rooms. It has a full-array local dimming feature, but it doesn't perform well and crushes any highlights. "

Rtings: "The LG NANO90 is okay for watching HDR movies. Its IPS panel has a low native contrast ratio, so blacks look gray, and the local dimming feature crushes highlights. The HDR brightness isn't anything special, so content doesn't pop how it should. Also, it doesn't technically display a wide color gamut needed for HDR content."

Rtings: "The LG NANO90 has a mediocre contrast ratio, which we expect from an IPS panel. Blacks look gray when viewed in the dark. The local dimming feature doesn't improve the contrast much with our test pattern because it seems to turn all the dimming zones on."

Rtings: "The LG NANO90 has a poor local dimming feature. It's full-array with 32 dimming zones and we tested it with LED Local Dimming set to 'Medium'. While the local dimming on the LG NANO90 2020 made everything brighter, it crushes everything on this year's model. It over-darkens scenes and causes bright highlights to lose details. There are uniformity issues throughout because there's blooming, which is distracting with subtitles. Fast-moving objects don't transition between the dimming zones well, and it's obvious when a zone turns on and off. Overall, while the local dimming can help improve the contrast, it worsens the picture quality."

Rtings: "The HDR brightness is decent. It gets brighter than in SDR, and it's an improvement from the LG NANO90 2020, but it's still not enough to make highlights pop. It gets brightest when small-to-medium-sized highlights stay on the screen for a short period, but they quickly lose their brightness the longer they stay on the screen. "

Rtings: "The black uniformity is disappointing, but this can vary a bit between units. Without local dimming enabled, the entire screen looks purple due to the low contrast. Even with local dimming enabled, the uniformity is worse because there's intense blooming around the center cross."

TV ModelFALD?MotionTrue 10 Bit?Dolby Vision?HDMI Ports/HDMI Version
LG NANO90No, panels varies by size60NoNo3 (2.0)
TCL R635Yes120YesYes4 (2.0)
Vizio M8Q-HYes60NoYes4 (2.0)
Vizio PQ-HYes120YesYes2 (2.1) + 2 (2.0)
Vizio OLED-HOLED120YesYes2 (2.1) + 2 (2.0)
LG BXOLED120YesYes2 (2.1) + 2 (2.0)
Sony X900HYes120YesYes2 (2.1) + 2 (2.0)
Sony X90JYes120YesYes2 (2.1) + 2 (2.0)

Rtings: "The Sony X900H is better overall than the LG NANO90 2021, mainly because they use different panel types. The Sony has a VA panel with a much higher contrast ratio and significantly better local dimming, so it's a better choice for watching movies in dark rooms. The Sony gets brighter, but the LG has much better reflection handling. Each TV has a 120Hz panel with HDMI 2.1 support; the LG has VRR support to reduce screen tearing, but that should come in a future firmware update for the Sony. Lastly, the LG has an IPS panel with wider viewing angles, so the image remains accurate when viewing from the side."

Rtings: "The Sony X90J is better than the LG NANO90 2021, but they have different panel types. The Sony has a VA panel with a much better contrast ratio and superior local dimming, so it's a better choice for dark room gaming. Even for HDR content, the Sony gets much brighter, so it makes highlights pop. On the other hand, the LG has an IPS panel with wider viewing angles. It also has more gaming features out of the box like VRR support, but that should come in a future firmware update for the Sony."

Rtings: "The LG CX OLED is much better than the LG NANO90 2021, mainly because they use different panel types. The CX has an OLED panel that displays perfect blacks, thanks to its near-infinite contrast ratio. Also, there's no blooming around bright objects. Each TV has the same gaming features with a 120Hz panel and HDMI 2.1 inputs, but the CX has a near-instant response time for smooth motion. On the other hand, the NANO90 has an LED panel that doesn't have the permanent burn-in risk associated with OLEDs, and it gets brighter."

Rtings: "The LG C1 OLED is much better than the LG NANO90 2021, mainly because they use different panel types. The C1 has an OLED panel that results in a near-infinite contrast ratio for perfect blacks, and there's no blooming around bright objects. It also has wider viewing angles, which is great if you have a large seating area. The C1 has a quicker response time, but each TV has the same gaming features with a 120Hz panel, VRR support, and HDMI 2.1 inputs. On the other hand, the NANO90 has an LED panel that gets brighter and doesn't have the permanent burn-in risk associated with OLEDs."

Rtings: "The Samsung Q80/Q80T QLED is much better than the LG NANO90 2021, but they use different panels. The Samsung has a VA panel with a much higher contrast ratio, and while the LG's IPS panel is supposed to have wider viewing angles, the Samsung still wins here because of its 'Ultra Viewing Angle' technology. Also, the Samsung gets brighter, making it a better choice for use in well-lit rooms or for watching HDR content. They have similar gaming features like a 120Hz panel and VRR support, but the Samsung has better motion handling."

Rtings: "The Sony X950H is better than the LG NANO90 2021, but they use different panel types. The Sony is better for dark room viewing because it has a higher native contrast and better local dimming, so blacks look deep and inky. It also gets significantly brighter and displays a wide color gamut, so the Sony is a better choice for watching HDR content. On the other hand, the LG has an IPS panel with wider viewing angles. It's also better for gaming because it has HDMI 2.1 and VRR support, which the Sony doesn't have."

Rtings: "The Samsung QN90A QLED is significantly better than the LG NANO90 2021. The Samsung is a high-end TV that uses Mini LED backlighting, so it gets extremely bright and delivers a more satisfying HDR experience than the LG. Even though the Samsung has a VA panel with a higher contrast ratio, it also has wider viewing angles than the LG, thanks to the 'Ultra Viewing Angle' technology. Also, the Samsung has a quicker response time, but they each have the same gaming features with HDMI 2.1 and VRR support. However, the LG is G-SYNC compatible, which the Samsung isn't."

Versus its Predecessor (The LG NANO90 2020)

Rtings: "The 2021 model improves in some areas, like the peak brightness, gradient handling, and build quality, and it also has a redesigned interface. The 2020 model displays a wider color gamut for HDR content, but not by much. Overall, the picture quality between each is very similar, and it's unlikely you'll notice any differences."


  • Why you shouldn't buy the 2021 LG UP Series | UP70 or UP80

LG UP70 vs The Competition

Full Rtings Review

Bottom Line (Rtings): "The LG UP7000 is an okay entry-level TV. It sits below the LG UP8000 and is pretty basic in features, which we expect for a low-cost option. It's limited in inputs with only two HDMI ports, which is disappointing if you need to connect multiple devices. Most of the sizes use an IPS-like panel, providing wide viewing angles, which is great for wide seating arrangements. However, that comes at the cost of a low contrast ratio, and without any local dimming, blacks look gray when viewed in the dark."

The LG UP70 Panel Varies by Size of TV (Per Display Specifications):

TV SizePanel Type
43, 55, 65, 75IPS
50, 70VA

Rtings: "The LG UP7000 is okay overall. It performs best for watching TV shows, sports, or using it as a PC monitor because of its wide viewing angles. Although it may not be bright enough to combat a ton of glare, it still has decent reflection handling. Sadly, it's disappointing for watching SDR or HDR movies because it has a low contrast ratio that makes blacks look gray, it doesn't have a local dimming feature, and it can't display a wide color gamut for HDR content."

Rtings: "The LG UP7000 is disappointing for watching movies in a dark room. It has an IPS-like panel with a low contrast ratio, so blacks look gray, and there's no local dimming feature to improve the contrast. It doesn't have any issues upscaling lower-resolution content, and it removes judder from native 24p sources."

Rtings: "The LG UP7000 is okay for gaming. It's not a good choice for dark room gaming because it has a low contrast ratio, so blacks look gray. It doesn't have any extra gaming features like variable refresh rate (VRR) support, and it's limited to a 60Hz refresh rate. It has an okay response time, but you may notice image duplication due to its flicker frequency."

Rtings: "The LG UP7000 has a low contrast ratio due to its IPS-like panel. Blacks look gray when viewed in the dark, and there's no local dimming feature to improve it. Keep in mind that contrast can vary between individual units."

Rtings: "The HDR brightness is disappointing. It doesn't get that much brighter in HDR than in SDR, so highlights don't pop how they should. Also, there's more frame dimming in the 2% window, so small highlights don't stand out. "

Rtings: "The black uniformity is disappointing, but this can vary between units. The entire screen looks blue due to the low contrast, and there's noticeable backlight bleed and clouding throughout. Once again, you can see the pinched screen along the bottom edge."

TV ModelFALD?MotionTrue 10 Bit?Dolby Vision?HDMI Ports/HDMI Version
LGNo, panels varies by size60NoNo3 (2.0)
TCL S535Yes60YesYes4 (2.0)
TCL R635Yes120YesYes4 (2.0)
Vizio M7Q-HYes60YesYes4 (2.0)
Vizio M8Q-HYes60NoYes4 (2.0)

Versus its Predecessor (The UN7000)

Rtings: "The LG UP7000 is the replacement of the LG UN7000 and improves in a couple of areas. The UP7000 gets much brighter, and even though it has worse reflection handling, reflections don't result in a reddish tint like on the UN7000. The UP7000 doesn't have issues displaying native 4k content like the UN7000 because it uses a different panel. On the other hand, the UN7000 has a larger selection of inputs, including three HDMI slots instead of two on the UP7000."

LG UP80 vs The Competition

Full Rtings Review - LG UP80

Bottom Line (Rtings): "The LG UP8000 is an okay budget 4k TV. It replaces 2020's LG UN7300 and UN8500, and like its predecessors, it also uses an ADS panel, which performs much like an IPS panel... Unfortunately, it doesn't get very bright, so it might struggle to combat intense glare, and it's certainly not bright enough to deliver a satisfying HDR experience, not to mention that it doesn't support a wide color gamut."

The LG UP80 Panel Varies by Size of TV (Per Display Specifications):

TV SizePanel Type
43, 55, 65, 75, 82, 86IPS
50, 60, 70VA

Rtings: "The LG UP8000 is mediocre for watching movies. It isn't well-suited for dark rooms because it has a low contrast ratio and no local dimming, so blacks look gray. It also stutters a bit due to its relatively fast response time. It upscales low-resolution content well, though, and it can remove judder from all sources."

Rtings: "The LG UP8000 is sub-par for watching movies in HDR. It has a low contrast ratio and no local dimming, so blacks look gray when viewed in the dark. On top of that, it can't display a wide color gamut and doesn't get bright enough to make highlights pop the way they should. On the upside, it upscales low-resolution content well without any artifacts, and it can remove judder from all sources."

Rtings: "The LG UP8000 has a sub-par contrast ratio, typical of an IPS panel. This means that blacks look gray, especially when viewing in a dark environment. Note that the contrast ratio can vary between individual units. "

Rtings: "The LG UP8000 has mediocre SDR brightness. It's very consistent across different content, but it isn't bright enough to combat glare in well-lit rooms."

Rtings: "The LG UP8000 has poor HDR brightness, in the same ballpark as the LG UN8500 and LG UN7300. It's nowhere near enough to make highlights pop in HDR content, and there's now some frame dimming in the 2% windows, which means that small objects in dark scenes appear dimmer. "

Rtings: "Black uniformity is mediocre, although this varies between individual units due to manufacturing tolerances. The screen looks blue, and there's some clouding throughout as well as some backlight bleed along the edges."

TV ModelFALD?MotionTrue 10 Bit?Dolby Vision?HDMI Ports/HDMI Version
LG UP80No, panels varies by size60 except 82 & 86 InchNoNo3 (2.0)
TCL S535Yes60YesYes4 (2.0)
TCL R635Yes120YesYes4 (2.0)
Vizio M7QYes60YesYes4 (2.0)
Vizio M8QYes60NoYes4 (2.0)

Versus its Predecessor (The LG UN8500)

Rtings: "The LG UP8000 and the LG UN8500 are very much alike, except that the UN8500 has a 120Hz refresh rate and HDMI 2.1 support. If you want a 120Hz refresh rate on the UP8000, you have to go with the 82 or 86 inch models; otherwise, it's limited to 60Hz. The UP8000 has wider viewing angles and better reflection handling; however, its color gamut and response times aren't as good as the UN8500."

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