…If women are hypergamous by nature, why the high prevalence of working women who pair up with, stick with, and care for loser guys, starving musicians, etc? Some of these women will go to extreme lengths to protect and nurture these losers.
Posted Jun 20, 2021, 3:33 PM UTC
Some chicks value sex appeal and charisma more than money. But a chick that only values money won’t deal with a dude that was broke even if she was attracted to him.
There is no objective standard for hypergamy, if she views him as her best option she'll stick to the guy like glue
I can't speak to "loser guys" (more information needed), but many women love musicians, basically because they are up on a stage spewing their (often shithouse) frame onto the crowd, of which is filled with other men listening to it.
Because women operate off of feelings and not logic.
working women. Comfort/provisioning is taken care of.
With the "losers" is where she gets her tingles/fantasy needs taken care of.
I'm curious as to why you define them as "losers"? Tell me, is Will Smith a loser? Yes or no?
My ex’s uncle was a failed musician but had a wife 20 years younger and she took care of everything. Bitched a lot about him and probably even fucked around on him, but she stuck with him until he died. He was not physically attractive in the slightest bit.
Growing up, in my circle of friends I knew a beautiful 19 year old who was head over heals for a 37 year old meth addict. She took care of this guy and was actually loyal to him.
Just a couple examples. It must be a mommy nurturing instinct or something.
Nah, bro. haha. It's not mommy nurturing instinct. It's authenticity. Those guys are authentic. For all their failings, they're not fake. That "realness" is the key to the alpha male quality a-lot of dudes on this sub are searching for.
I wish you could see some of these guys I’m talking about lol. Not alpha in the slightest bit. I’m seriously not jealous or bitter, just perplexed.
Another example. My own grandfather was a gambling degenerate loser who would lose the rent money on poker games. My grandmother was a typist and took care of him.
Authenticity > ego > doubt
Alpha beta omega
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why the high prevalence of working women who pair up with, stick with, and care for loser guys, starving musicians, etc?
It's not high prevalence, it's rare.
But when they do it, it's because the guy is ATTRACTIVE.
Hypergamy applies to physical attributes.
Provider potential is a whole other thing. More rational. More opportunistic on the part of the female.
What you’re saying is completely rational and logical. However, firstly I don’t think it is rare anymore and especially given the fact that women are now outpacing men in college degrees it will be even more prevalent.
Secondly, there has to be another explanation for this other than he’s a studly attractive Chad because that is definitely not the case in many of my albeit anecdotal experiences having observed this. It must be an issue of some women just wanting to have the power in the relationship.
Many women are drawn to down and out men out of sympathy. These women 'see' the little boy in these men and want to take care of them. This is why going Rambo Alpha turns some women off-no woman can love a cold, hard statue of a man.
Working women have provisioning handled. At that point men become a luxury good.
Get used to this, it is the future.
You're looking for logical reason in a hypergamous girl? You're dividing by zero and wondering why you're getting crazed answers.
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This is such a 101 question. Have you even read the sidebar?
Men size up other men in seconds. Within minutes of a group of men being put together, we have established some sort of hierarchy. We are very very good at this. We have to be, because hunting demands a clear hierarchy, being bad at prolongs the risk of a fight and injury.
Women, are TERRIBLE at this. They confuse undeserved arrogance with confidence. They see a loose, confident guy who flashes some cash and he's got a dangerous job (say he's a drug dealer) to a woman, that's a winner. Someone who takes risks, stands out, got an edge on other boring men. Now some of these men, broken as they may be, DO have a talent. They might be washed up losers, but they excel at a talent (say music). Now I've been touring with a band as a roadie. It doesn't matter how small the band is, or how ugly, if you can perform on stage and have a room of women drooling, you're going to get visits at the back room. In between stints, these men might be grimey, living in a shitty flat, but they have "localised status", and they can capitalize on that.
As to why they stay: women have a thing for "fixing" broken men. The more tortured and anguished an artist, they more they will try to fix him so he can be great. Maybe this trait has evolutionarily evolved from something to do with child raising. I really don't care. I observe facts.
Same reason why they gets dogs women love a project that can’t run away 😂😂🤣🤣
Most women who have dogs can’t train em for shit, same thing with a man it’s just funner to them to work on a loser than to work on themselves as a person spiritually mentally ect.
Could be multiple reasons