1k dark angels, deathwing or ravenwing?

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Currently I am scheduled to play my upcoming league match vs Tyranids or Orks . Both a horde army to some capacity and am having trouble deciding between pure deathwing or ravenwing.

Both seem like they will have solid options, deatbsings staying power vs mass shots, and ravenwings speed for objectives vs the slow push with orks.

Option 1: deathwing

 

++ Vanguard Detachment -3CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Dark Angels) [53 PL, 7CP, 990pts] ++

 

+ Configuration +

 

Chapter Selector: Dark Angels

 

Battle Size [6CP]: 2. Incursion (51-100 Total PL / 501-1000 Points)

 

Deathwing Vanguard Detachment [3CP]

 

Detachment Command Cost [-3CP]

 

+ No Force Org Slot +

 

Deathwing Apothecary [6 PL, -1CP, 135pts]: Chapter Command: Chief Apothecary, Selfless Healer, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter

 

+ HQ +

 

Azrael [8 PL, 2CP, 170pts]: 1. Brilliant Strategist, Warlord

 

Chaplain in Terminator Armour [7 PL, 120pts]: 4. Mantra of Strength, 6. Canticle of Hate (Aura), Benediction of Fury, Chapter Command: Master of Sanctity, Storm bolter

 

+ Elites +

 

Deathwing Command Squad [10 PL, 115pts]

. Deathwing Sergeant

. . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield: Thunder hammer

. Deathwing Terminator: Lightning Claw (Pair)

. Deathwing Terminator: Lightning Claw (Pair)

 

Deathwing Command Squad [4 PL, 90pts]

. Deathwing Sergeant

. . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield: Thunder hammer

. Deathwing Terminator

. . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield: Thunder hammer

 

Deathwing Command Squad [4 PL, 80pts]

. Deathwing Sergeant

. . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield: Thunder hammer

. Deathwing Terminator: Lightning Claw (Pair)

 

Deathwing Command Squad [4 PL, 80pts]

. Deathwing Sergeant

. . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield: Thunder hammer

. Deathwing Terminator: Lightning Claw (Pair)

 

Redemptor Dreadnought [10 PL, 200pts]: 2x Fragstorm Grenade Launchers, Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Icarus Rocket Pod, Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Rites of Initiation

 

++ Total: [53 PL, 7CP, 990pts] ++

My main idea is pushing with the terminators/azrael and contest with strong melee on one side while the redemptor will deal with infantry. The multiple command squads will make it hard for the hqs to get touched and allow them to get maximum value.

Option 2: ravenwing

 

++ Outrider Detachment -3CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Dark Angels) [41 PL, 5CP, 1,000pts] ++

 

+ Configuration +

 

Chapter Selector: Dark Angels

 

Battle Size [6CP]: 2. Incursion (51-100 Total PL / 501-1000 Points)

 

Detachment Command Cost [-3CP]

 

Ravenwing Outrider Detachment [3CP]

 

+ HQ +

 

Lieutenant(s) [8 PL, -1CP, 175pts]

. Ravenwing Talonmaster: Arbiter's Gaze, Iron Resolve, Rites of War, Stratagem: Paragon of the Chapter, Warlord

 

+ Fast Attack +

 

Attack Bike Squad [6 PL, 180pts]

. Attack Bike: Multi-melta

. Attack Bike: Multi-melta

. Attack Bike: Multi-melta

 

Attack Bike Squad [6 PL, 180pts]

. Attack Bike: Multi-melta

. Attack Bike: Multi-melta

. Attack Bike: Multi-melta

 

Attack Bike Squad [6 PL, 180pts]

. Attack Bike: Multi-melta

. Attack Bike: Multi-melta

. Attack Bike: Multi-melta

 

Bike Squad [5 PL, 95pts]

. Biker Sergeant: Lightning Claw

. 2x Space Marine Biker w/Chainsword: 2x Astartes Chainsword, 2x Frag & Krak grenades, 2x Twin boltgun

 

Bike Squad [5 PL, 95pts]

. Biker Sergeant: Lightning Claw

. 2x Space Marine Biker w/Chainsword: 2x Astartes Chainsword, 2x Frag & Krak grenades, 2x Twin boltgun

 

Bike Squad [5 PL, 95pts]

. Biker Sergeant: Lightning Claw

. 2x Space Marine Biker w/Chainsword: 2x Astartes Chainsword, 2x Frag & Krak grenades, 2x Twin boltgun

 

**++ Total: [41 PL, 5CP, 1,000pts]

The gameplan is speed shoving objectives and trying to kill him faster than he can kill me. The melta bikes can deal with higher ap, while the melee bike squads and talonmastsr deal with infantry.

I'm fairly new to marines but any input would be appreciated to help tune these lists.

Posted Jul 1, 2021, 12:04 AM UTC

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