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Melf and "non-dominant" genders

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Does Melf's non-dominant gender bonus apply to all champions when there's no statistically dominant gender?

I don't think it does - I'm looking at Shandie's incoming effects from Melf's Melf's Augmented Support Spell, and it says she's only getting the 50% bonus for being one spot away from him.

It seems to me like it should - it doesn't say "minority" or "least prevalent" gender, but "non-dominant," which should mean that if there is no dominant gender, all genders are considered non-dominant.

("All genders" rather than "both" because Warden identifies as non-binary and Hew Maan identifies as simultaneously male and female - so there are four distinct gender values in play. It seems like Hew Maan and Warden should always get the effect of this ability when there are more than three people in the party, since they're never going to be in the majority group...)

Posted Jul 1, 2021, 7:50 PM UTC

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og17•

You might send a bug report for the wording, it saying "x is non-dominant" omits warden getting the buff so you'd think it'd say "x is dominant" instead. Also mechanically Hew isn't consistent, as with equal male and female Melf says nothing is dominant and buffs neither, but Hew says "non-dominant" and gets a buff. But my understanding is that Hew's simply intended to qualify for male and female, not count as a unique gender, so Hew shouldn't be buffed unless all males and females are also supposed to be getting buffed.

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scoxely•

It seems to me like it should - it doesn't say "minority" or "least prevalent" gender, but "non-dominant," which should mean that if there is no dominant gender, all genders are considered non-dominant.

The same logic can be flipped to say that when it's an even split between M and F, each is a dominant gender, thus there is no non-dominant between the two of them. The text of the bonus says "the non-dominant gender", not each/any non-dominant gender.

I don't think either option (ties sharing the buff vs. excluding the buff) is inherently more logical than the other, though I think as a balance concept it makes more sense to apply to everyone in the case of a tie.

And perhaps most importantly, in the end it's only a 50% boost, which is only half of the hp increase enemies gain from a single zone.

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og17•

"Dominant" means above the rest, if it's tied there is no dominant. And "non-dominant" just means not dominant, they're not opposites like this.

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