More specifically, do you believe you'll live to see a time where Pitbull breeds are successfully eradicated from your country or state entirely? Why or why not?
Posted Jul 21, 2021, 9:27 PM UTC
We have them banned but people still love bloody staffies. Luckily when a poor child gets murdered, as one did a week ago, people and the media do question the breed.
What’s the difference between a pit and a staffie?
Not much. Both were used for fighting, staffies are just slightly smaller.
One is 10/10 danger and the other 9.5/10
I think so yeah. Pits speak for themselves. All these repeals means there’s going to be a lot more dog attacks.
Unfortunately many more people are going to learn the hard way.
No. The more people that are killed, the more people defend the breed. If only people had empathy for people and not killer dogs.
I think so.
I'm being cautious but optimistic. A few repeals and like what u/bring_back_trucknuts said? Some people are sadly gonna learn the hard way.
I don't think it will be successful, but I'm pretty cynical regarding laws/legal code and the direction government authority seems to be trending anyways.
I constantly see the most fucked up parts of society celebrated and justice continually turned on its head across the board. I don't see us snapping out of that just for a breed of dog. Hence my choice to continue living where self-defense is not criminalized.
I saw a TikTok today from a shelter account talking about this “adorable little pibble with some issues” that has been there over two years. I scrolled through the comments for a good 5 minutes and didn’t see a single thing questioning why it had been there so long. No wondering the severity of the offense that caused this dog to be unadoptable. Just a constant stream of , “omg so cute I’m flying from Michigan right now to adopt this sweetie! 😍”
No, in fact I think we’ll see an end to pitbull Bans nationwide.
My city used to have a pitbull ban, Unfortunately a family with a pitbull decided to move in and challenge the law, they won. They moved out shortly afterwards. I believe that our city was targeted, that the only reason why they moved here was to challenge the law.
Fast forward 4 years, and several mauling’s later .... we now have a bunch of rules that should only apply to dangerous breeds, applying to all. (All dogs must be muzzled when they are in public spaces, no retractable leashes, Plus they demolished the dog park due to liability issues)
Do you have any idea how hard it is to find a muzzle for a toy breed?
No. My area is overrun with shitbulls and people who are in poor behavioral health. The whole reason why they have the dogs is to put themselves in the spaces of people with labs and chrysanthemum faced dogs in order to make the uncomfortable. A lab catching a frisbee, or a husky jogging beside his owner is triggering to them and those people and their dogs are “too comfortable”. If your Boston terrier is breathing, pit nutters take it personally.
chrysanthemum faced dogs
Colorful, but I have no idea what it means. What is it?
Shih tzus. Source: I own one of the floofs
Thanks for clarifying. Now I know!
Lots of people in poor behavioral health would be people with labs and other real dogs. Being mentally ill is not synonymous with being a pit lover/garbage person. I've got anxiety disorder that I take meds for and I know pit bulls shouldn't be pets.
is that behavioral or mental health though
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where does the money and will to lobby even come from?
money? from where? breeders? did you have a link?
I live in an absolute nanny state, any further tragedies and staffies will be added to the ban list for sure. I think English staffies will remain, but if a 20kg weight limit was imposed along side a ban on amstaffs that would be a positive step in the right direction for minimising harm caused by these shitty dogs.
I would honestly like a full crack down on all back yard breeding and puppy mills, all pits (excluding some English staffs) in my state are byb so to be done with that would reduce the population significantly.
No. Why? I explained in a former post before, but in short there are two variables stemming from a core issue: why are dogs even so highly valued in the first place? If my country starts to prioritize human life over dog life due to a switch in values, then yes, a ban/eradication of pitbulls could be predicted. If not, there is no chance. And right now, America is going thru insurgency. Depending on where Americs goes in the future (and if it'll even continue to exist) we can make stronger predictions.
USA, so, hard no. Would have more hope if living in Europe or Australia
No, we already have a pitbull ban. It is not successful as we still allow staffies, I doubt staffies will be added to ban list as they're too popular.
Same in my country. And all shelters are full of pitbulls/pitbull mix like in the USA
Not unless it affects quote a few famous / powerful peopke in a short time period
Other... pit bulls and shitbulls have manufactured popularity. They only appear to be popular and most people still don’t like the breed. These most recent decades are going to be an interesting time in history where a lot of hysteria occurred to include anthropomorphism.
I think it's a possibility. Do I believe they'll be eradicated? No way. No country has been successful with that even with outright bans.
If we see an end to the pit problem in my lifetime, I think it'll be a huge crackdown on dog fighting and backyard breeding. Hopefully we can overcome the "nanny breed" bullshit and acknowledge what pits are (large, aggressive dogs, many of which have fighting DNA in them).
Hopefully, we also see owners held responsible for attacks and in turn pit owners start to secure their dogs at home/in the yard and muzzle more of them outside of the home.
I don't think the pit breed will be eradicated. I do think responsible ownership on a wide scale is possible, which could dramatically reduce attacks and other problems. And if we accomplish all of the above, maybe an outright ban isn't necessary
Even if yes no one would enforce it and their black market value would go up
No because Americans are stupid and don't understand when something that they like is bad for them. And the government never has the balls to do the unpopular thing for the sake of common good.
With so many repeals lately I can see some laws passed but not outright ban. There's no resources to enforce it.
honestly propaganda is terrifyingly successful, but i think we just need to counter it with similar approaches..
two days in a row pitbull attacks have made it to the front page of reddit, by way of r/publicfreakout. any videos posted here, should be cross posted there and can work as a gateway to this sub as well.
I've even seen print ups posted in the windows of pet stores and markets, talmbout #did you know pitbulls are the most loyal honorable and lovable dogs? they get a bad rep, but the kennel club rates them safe for all families.
i think people mistakenly dismiss this type of stuff for being useless, but for the billions of people who dont have an opinion on this, encountering a few messages that all say the same thing is enough to get you to subconsciously agree with it. you dont know any better, and you probably dont care unless something awful is happening.
we should be posting shit up to let people know, something awful is happening.
just like a viscous photo, accompanied by huge title text that makes the point with brevity. then a bunch of smaller bullets with statistics or shocking events for anyone who stuck around to learn more
will likely do a world of difference
Yes! I was one of those people until I saw the video yesterday of the pit bull attacking the horse. My eyes are opened now and I won’t keep quiet about it.