Had the whole screen covered and only got to 59......not sure how you’d get to level 100
Posted Jul 26, 2021, 2:29 AM UTC
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to update you with my findings, total towers sacced falls off and caps just above 30 towers. past that it can be raised with the pop count on the FODDER SACRIFICES (not the t5s making it)
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Bruh it is rly that worth it at that point lol
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if you want to minmax for freeplay and possibly boss events. Degree 1 paragons (at least boomer) can solo a bad. Besides with the insane cost you won't be using them for much else.
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for sure boss events, elite is no joke
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This isn’t true. The t5’s making it also make a massive difference depending on their pop count, I got level 35 boomerang with only the three t5’s, they just had a lot of pops each
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So pops of T5s don’t count? I get it but that’s kinda annoying because you basically have to not use the T5s
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Apparently the pops of the sacrificed T5's do count
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With zero pops, the Boomer paragon caps at rank 30, and the Dart paragon caps at rank 38 if you also sac a 2nd xbow master using the MK.
Pops on the fodder sacrificed AND on the tier 5s both matter. Trying to test to see how much you get from each.
As best I can tell, mode difficulty DOES NOT MATTER when it comes to the zero-pop limit.
EDIT: New info:
At 135, I got a rank 76, and a rank 46 with fresh t5s and the same fodder.
At 139, I'm getting a rank 76, and a rank 48 with fresh t5s and the same fodder.
This means that either the total pops is what matters and is capped, or there's an artificial cap on paragon rank on easy maps.
Maximum rank possible with zero fodder on Easy/Medium map, Hard difficulty is 69.
Max rank possible with zero pops on fodder on Easy/Medium map, Hard difficulty is 76.
To test:
Find maximum possible with zero pops on t5s.
Map Difficulty.
Does mode affect the caps on levels from pops - No reason to believe so yet.
Please do feel free to chip in with info if you can.
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I was testing on logs on round 140 a dart paragon got to 79degree and in 160 got 79degree too(with a lot more pops)i’m gonna try on a expert map now, i want that 100 boy
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Interesting - maybe being able to sacrifice a T5 gives an extra bonus? I'm hard capped at 76 on the boomer.
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Just tested, round 170 with boomerang in dark castle every t5 with 10m pops and capped at 76 too, it has to be glitched or something
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round 240 resort easy i was able to get dart paragon 78
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I got 45 with about 5 million pops or so total on all three Boomerangs. I'm also curious what's the difference between 1 and 100.
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Ya i wonder how worth it it actually is
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I think we're gonna have to wait for the two paragon wiki pages to give us the hard numbers.
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I think pops definitely has some effect. Not sure exactly how though.
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Ya ig we’ll see
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What does degree mean???
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Strength level basically. Similar in some ways to temple sacs
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I only used 3 of the t5s and got 69 degree. Pop count and upgrades are what matters, not the amount.
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Updating with my findings. I tried the dart of the first map basically full committing to only dart monkey pops until the point where CC was needed and in the time from 140 to 160 the paragon always stayed at 79. It must be either glitched or capped in some way though I also filled the entire map with dart monkeys and villages so if there is a cap to sacs maybe that was a problem. Easy difficulty easy map, I just wish NK would say something about this to clarify with more info cuz it seems a bit weird.
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There are many factors ,and they are unknown. If we knew all the factors it would just be tedious. Sheer head count has been discovered to do nothing ,but upgrading it helps and think it can contribute 30 at max. Pop count is another variable but it is hard test.
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Gotta upgrade the darts and boomers to max. I would go with the most expensive, which would gotta be the 2-0-4 darts, and 2-4-0 boomers.
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A little correction: 2-4-0 dart is more expensive than 2-0-4
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Just get the bommer bois a lot of pop THEN make the paragon it makes the paragon stronger
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I believe the buffs on the sacrificed towers also play a part, since the patch notes say (emphasis mine):
- In battle, Paragons gain strength by absorbing the power of all Monkey Towers of that type on the playfield - the greater the number and effectiveness of the Monkey Towers absorbed, the greater the Degree of Paragon you will create! Paragon Degrees start at 1 and reach a maximum Degree of 100.
So, buying a Permabrew and a Primary Expertise for all your Boomers should also improve your Paragon Degree.
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I tried on challenge editor. It doesn't unfortunately. I also tried with temple buffs to no avail. I did find if you made the towers cheaper through village and temple buffs they count for less and you get lower degrees. So similar to saccing for a temple
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Dang I thought this was it
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pops count too
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I wish I could play with paragons ;-; my game is stuck on 26.2
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You have to manually update it, at least it was so for me on iPhone. Just go to the AppStore search for btd6, click on it and wait till the „open“ button turn into an „Update“ Button
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I reinstalled the app and connected again with a code
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Pops also count towards degree
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I had 25 degrees (only sacd 500 050 and 005). I think it's other boosts. Try buff all the boomers as much as possible with pbrew and expertise and ultraboost. I think if I spent more cash on more boomers and buffed them all it could've been higher
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I think each level has increasing cost, covering about a third of the screen got me power 47 dart and 41 boomer*.*
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How?! I got 25m + with my t5 boomerangs and it’s lvl 76
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I know boomers seem to need more, but I am suspicious of this man who got 100 because people have said there might be a cap on pops and nobody else has mentioned a 100 dart yet
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I just experimented on dart paragon a bit. 20 of all T4 monkeys of all 3 paths each got me to 38, but so did 40 of all. I also tested over a 100 plain T0 darts, decree 1.
After that I'm inclined to think cash (and possibly head count) does pay a part, but only up to a point. Pops the sacrificed towers have might be another component.
I suspect pops at least is a supporting role, considering I got 45 with only the three t5's needed, but about 5m pops total.
I went to the challenge editor to test this, started from r101 with infinite money. I got all tier-5 darts, 50 or so smfc (because i was tired), pbrew, primary expertise and support tsg to maximize pop count of my dart monkeys. At r150 I upgraded and got a paragon with 73 power level.
Amount of money you spend on monkeys sure increases the level but pop count is far more important from what I have seen.
Interesting
Yeah, he seems to be right. Pop count of sacraficed towers appears to have a significant impact.
Also money so im guessing both money and pop count count
Yeah, money seems to have diminishing returns after a certain amount as well, to stop you relying on money over pop count.
The dozen towers or so you place are worth more than the next dozen you make even though they're the same cash value.