Hi! with the new ap buffs on E, I’m looking into ap nunu as well. I want it to be effective and not greedy for damage, it always feels bad when going off build and having your team blame you for it. I’ve thought nunu is a skirmisher that goes in and out, so phase rush is a comfort pick.
Is dark harvest necessary for ap nunu? How is the play style different, and what matchups, team comps and game staff is it good into?
Posted Jul 30, 2021, 4:10 PM UTC
What about tank-ap hybrid is it viable?
I build, sunfire/darkseal/deadmans/thornmail/voidstaff/resistance boots. Works really well for me in lower elos
The idea of ap nunu is to do a one shot, and then run away, and repeat, so dh works really well.
Just feels bad when they get away because of no phase rush on E! But I'm Definitely curious about it.
You could probably still do phase rush. The meta isn't so binary as to say you won't have success with it more if it fits your style.
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Dont buy nighttroller please
It's very hard for the enemy to get away if you land a big W and follow up with E slow. Phase rush to me is more about kiting than it is about chasing
I love that style, with Ap Nunu how do you get out alive if you don’t Have enough damage? Btw do you write music?
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Go hybrid
is Hybrid AP Tank Nunu good?
Idk but it works good for me
I go sunfire and demonic idk if its good couse im just silver. But since all games are rlly early game based you wont need too much tank items to survive grouped fights. Yes it can be a bit harder later but it makes ur early- mid ganks rlly strong.
another thing i've wondered is actually going the reverse, something like sorcs, demonic into sunfire. I would do first ap bruiser item with a non-mythic so I can still get sunfire, but it'd go for early gank damage, kind of like on Shaco or Xin when you rush a serrated dirk then sitting on it while building a different first item. I've been wondering about Sorcs rush for this kind of build since you get faster clear from damage and also get an early ms power spike.
Dark harvest bot lane, burn lilla support, gg ez
To me, Nunu AP is only truly viable if you have a Kayle in your team for the ult... The probem with AP Nunu is that you usually need a strong frontline to either use W and escape or using Q. Otherwise, nunu's R has the most potential for damages and tankiness with shield, only issue is that any CCs will annihilate you. So it all depends on enemy's spells. The new AP ratio on his E, may allow you to use projectiles and do some nice damages without exposing you without frontline tho... We'll see with the patch I guess.
What if we go into the AP mythic onto deadmans plate ?
like frost for the extra cc and then just full tank.
I did that for a while. Its a pretty decent jungle build W into frost root into e root
Is it tanky enough? Or you play different until dead man’s?
You could check out keshas stream on twitch. He runs ap nunu most of the time and he's challenger on his main.
Go AP Nunu if your team needs AP or you already have a tank (like Ornn/Cho not Darius/Morde). You should also make sure your Cho/Sion isn't going an offmeta build. Going AP Nunu when your team doesn't have a frontliner sucks because you basically have as much survivability as a mid game Vlad.
You have really strong early game ganks and probably one of the best levels 6's. Your main goal is to snowball as AP nunu, both figuratively and explicitly. The main weakness of AP Nunu is that without w or r you're completely useless and vulnerable, so you can easily be killed if you don't kill. If you have 0 dark seal / mejais stacks because you've died too many times, the game is most likely over for you and you should just play around ranged w's and sneaky r's. As you'll most likely be taking kills due to your high damage, you need to look to end quickly around 2-3rd item powerspike.
If someone pings your build, mute them. If you're going Nunu jg always go first back dark seal -> NH first item and take Dark Harvest with speed runes always (sometimes ult hunter works too). Good second items (besides mejais) are Void (damage), Cosmic Drive (all around), and Deadmans (speed/tank hybrid). Boots is 99% sorcs unless you need swifties or mobis to gap close against certain adcs/mids.
Go Proto/Everfrost if you're going nunu mid. Both helps with hard pushing the wave. Proto helps with e proc and escape while Ever is good for early mana and e/r proc.
Why do you go night harvester over hextech rocketbelt?
With the new buffs, ap nunu is usually best as a jungler. Continuously ganking your lanes, especially immobile mages, is easily the best way to win games. I’ve only played full ap nunu which unlocks so much potential like 1 v 1 ing a fed adc like MF or Aphelios. If you have any other questions about the build, feel free to DM me!