8-5-2021: Best and Worst Signings of NBA Free Agency, Plus Jermaine O’Neal on Untold Stories From the “Malice at the Palace”
Posted Aug 5, 2021, 8:50 PM UTC
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Ryen why are you justifying/apologizing to the audience regarding your vacation. By all means take a vacation and warn people there are some pre-recorded episodes coming up. But don't be weird and insecure and defensive about it.
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I’ve been skipping the athletes interviews lately but this one is great. Jermaine comes off very thoughtful and shares some great details.
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Jermaine O’Neal was one of my favorite guys to play with on NBA Live lol
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I’ve always hated the “well it doesn’t matter now” argument - it’s such bullshit. All that exists is the present and to not do something in the current moment because it won’t feel the same in the future is so fucking moronic and with that logic nothing should ever be done & you shouldn’t care about anything ever. Ryen kinda gave up once he realized his advice wasn’t sound and just did the “do this or just don’t” which isn’t the strongest case for a segment built on advice..
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Well it was a dumb question, and not clear why they picked it would be more my complaint.
A) He is already hooking up with this girl, so keep doing that, it will either get more serious, or it won't.
B) Worrying about some work situation 10 months away as a 20 year old is beyond stupid.
C) Ryen/Sir Rudy is absolutely right that if she doesn't want to commit, he should pursue other options as that often clarifies things. When I was about that age I was chasing one girl for a while, but she was taking it very slow. So then I fooled around a bit with her friend one weekend, and suddenly she was WAY more interested in formalizing our relationship.
I think the problem wasn't his advice, so much as picking this question, or not being super quick with it.
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Jermain O'Neal is an idiot for comparing what happened in Detroit with baseball brawls, the occasional football tussle, and hockey fights -- this involved players fighting fans.
Those are all players against players.
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As I understood it, he was saying that a lot of black NBA players in general had already been given the thug label before the malice due to fights that happened on the court between players, which is, as you said, the same thing that was happening in those sports you mention. The malice was the nail in the coffin on that reputation that the players already had, which led to Stern instituting the dress code.
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I mean, all those weapons charges like that of Gilbert Arenas and others didn't help either, right? I mean, Iverson's stock fell prior to going to Georgetown because of his participation in a brawl in a bowling alley.
The label "thug" definitely had some racial undertones, for sure, but collectively, they earned it.
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That's a bit of a different point, and I don't think they collectively earned it - that's labeling a large group of people for the actions of a few outliers. I don't think Jermaine said that the players were squeaky clean, but rather that the thug label had racial undertones with stuff akin to "Gilbert had guns in the lockerroom, they're all thugs" when reality is far more nuanced than that. Baseball had to fight against that same hand-waving attitude with the steroid era.
I would also urge you to watch the 30 for 30 on the Iverson brawl, if you haven't already. It's a pretty crazy story.
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Jermaine is underrated in so many ways