How hard is it going to be for us to get a mortgage for a triad relationship, and what can we do to improve the situation?

Financially, my partners and I are in a pretty good place. But we have a few bits of complexity which might make banks wary.

Firstly, we're in a polyamorous triad, which means there are three of us.

Two of us (me and partner 1) will be the ones actually buying the house, name on the deeds, getting the mortgage. Partner 2 is disabled an unable to work, and has a pretty shakey credit history, so won't be contributing towards the deposit or mortgage or having any ownership, and she's fine with that (in fact, she's generally the one arguing for that situation while we're going "are you sure?"). We don't have any joint accounts, so partner 2's credit history doesn't directly affect ours.

We're unmarried, and I'm aware from monogamous friends that trying to buy together in a realtionship without being married can make things complicated with lenders (two of us getting married for financial reasons is not something that's going to happen, before anyone suggests it).

Financially, we're in a very strong position (percentages/amounts based on our current "back of the envelope" budget) - the equity in my current house should be about 30% deposit, and partner 1 has savings earmarked for this which would add another 10%, and then I could add another 30% from my longer term investments if needed. Our combined yearly income (pre-tax) is about half the amount we'd be looking to borrow - I've had my job for almost a decade, but partner 1 will likely need to change jobs due to moving to a different city. Both of us have good credit history.

I don't need advice on the interpersonal stuff here, or how we split our finances between ourselves - we've had a lot of full and frank discussions on this, and know what we want to do in various situations, and I work at a law firm so have much better people I can ask about any agreements which would need to be in place. My concern at this point is how much trouble it will be to deal with the banks, when buying as 2 of the 3 members of a triad relationship, with the third also being a resident in the house we'll be buying.

As you'll note from the above numbers, it's likely to be affordable if I buy the property on my own. This is potentially an option if it would be signfiicantly easier than buying together with partner 1, but it's something we'd prefer not to do.

(edit: And yes, we will be talking to a broker when we get further along with our plans. This is just to give us an idea of what's likely to be involved for expectation management)

Posted Aug 7, 2021, 2:44 PM UTC

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_VigoTheCarpathian•

I work at a law firm so have much better people I can ask

Ouch

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Aware-Newt177•

Suggest they go speak to their broker. Cant be asking for help from people below them.

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LordRedOwl48•

Because of beneficial interests.

A non mortgage party can acquire an interest in the property they contribute to. That will of course have an impact on the mortgagees rights.

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LordRedOwl48•

They will ask what the relationship is.

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greenonion71•

Kinda feels like you just want to tell everyone about your unusual relationship. As far as I can tell, partner 2 has very little to do with buying this house. Perhaps considered a dependent if they don't have income to support themselves.

Presumably OP and partner 1 apply for a mortgage and it's all good. Tell the broker about the fact you will likely be supporting someone else and I'd imagine it will be ok.

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DumbMuscleOP4•

If I did there are better places on Reddit for that!

Honestly it comes down to a) having had previous experience with my current house trying to get permission from the bank for a lodger after starting the mortgage, which was a whole paperwork nightmare (but that might just be their systems/the particular contract for that mortgage), and b) stories from a friend who was much more borderline financially who apparently had a lot of additional complexity in getting their mortgage approved and were advised that being married would be helpful in some way (I don't know the full details there, so there might have been something else strange with their situation).

Honestly the replies on here are the happiest I've been to be called an idiot publicly, and it's nice to know that I'm probably worrying over nothing.

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greenonion71•

The bank wouldn't normally have given a shit if you had a lodger (assuming you live there too). No need to tell them.

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DumbMuscleOP4•

A requirement to get permission from the bank for anyone else living in the house (other than family members) was in the mortgage contract. I could probably have got a mortgage without that requirement, but it was a change of plans about a year after buying so it wasn't on my radar at the time I was getting the mortgage.

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Busy_Rough6•

This is a non-issue really. Firstly, there are very few complications if any when it comes to buying a home as a married couple vs unmarried. Banks don’t change lending criteria or adjust anything based on marital status. As far as the banks are concerned you and partner 1 are buying the house. They need not even know about the 3rd party - for all intents and purposes they will be a form a ‘lodger’ anyway if they contribute towards anything like bills etc. Either way, you should find the process is vastly similar to your first purchase - no need to worry at all

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h_belloc33•

Partner 2 is disabled an unable to work, and has a pretty shakey credit history, so won't be contributing towards the deposit or mortgage or having any ownership, and she's fine with that (in fact, she's generally the one arguing for that situation while we're going "are you sure?").

It doesn't surprise me she's keen on the idea! She's in a bad position in life (disabled, unemployed, bad credit) and is being handed a free place to live on a platter! Of course she's "fine with that". I bet she can't believe her luck.

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SavingPrivateRyan17•

I could be wrong but I’d view it as you buying a house with your partner and having a ‘lodger’. Currently buying a house with my girlfriend and we were offered 4.5x our salaries of which a good chunk is commission.

If you and partner 1 can get the mortgage I wouldn’t bother mentioning partner 2 in the application

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n907791126•

Mortgage as unmarried couple is not a problem.

On the application you need to state who will be living their and possibly the relationship to you. The partner not on the mortgage will likely have to sign a declaration stating they have no financial/ownership rights over the property.

This is to protect the mortgage company incase you fail to pay. They want to take control of the house without anyone else claiming to have ownership rights and slowing it down for them.

My once girlfriend now wife had to sign one of these declarations. No big deal.

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Vastaux4•

We're unmarried, and I'm aware from monogamous friends that trying to buy together in a realtionship without being married can make things complicated with lenders

That's not true. Lenders don't care about your relationship status.

My concern at this point is how much trouble it will be to deal with the banks, when buying as 2 of the 3 members of a triad relationship, with the third also being a resident in the house we'll be buying.

Noone will care. You don't need to tell the bank any of this (please don't). The facts are you are buying as a couple with your unmarried partner, that's all the lender cares about - who will liable for the mortgage and can you both afford it and the conveyancer will get you to stipulate how the house is to be split if one of you dies.

Partner number 2, in the nicest of way, doesn't come into it at all, they are not part of the transaction in any way and have no claim over the house, they will effectively be a lodger who lives with you (you don't need permission to have a guest/lodger) and will have almost 0 rights .

How hard is it going to be for us to get a mortgage for a triad relationship

The same as any other couple buying a house. Third person doesn't come into play.

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remarkablemayonaise226•

I see what you did there... I'll stick my neck out and guess that OP already knew that siblings, friends etc buy property together.

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absurdfruit•

That was nasty in a pretty insidious way. Just because it’s not the way you live doesn’t mean you have to give other people shit for it. I’m strictly monogamous and can’t see myself otherwise, but I’m not a dick to other people just because their experiences don’t align with mine. Either give advice or don’t, but don’t be an arsehole about it.

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PhelgmDog17•

Getting a mortgage for an unmarried couple is simple and straight forward loads of people do it.

I imagine your will will be far more complicated (and costly!)

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