Just bought Anduin and Deathwing
What can I expect in game? And what traits should I get etc B)
Posted Aug 15, 2021, 7:45 PM UTC
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This web page can show you what talents are popular or successful for other people https://heroesprofile.com/Global/Talents/?hero=Deathwing
Currently Zagara is super strong and Deathwing does not like fighting her, so ban her if possible or you can be in trouble
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I can definitely see DW hating Zagara.
She can kite him for eternity, match/exceed his waveclear, and he can’t kill her summons quickly. Toss in her damn strong % damage talent on 16 and he’s probably smoked like a fine cigar.
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If memory serves, I believe the ranged DW build is the norm now.
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Expect a lot of fun with Anduin, he’s great. I’ll give you my talent build if you need some inspiration
[[Evenhanded Blessings]] is my go to buy I do also enjoy [[Lightwell].
[[Moral Compass]] as you don’t really have to change what you do to much and get extra range.
You could go for any level 7 but I find [[Desperate Prayer]] to be not that great as the stun is debilitating. It’s good but I personally don’t like it that much.
Any heroic depending on the situation, this one is purely “can I get off a [[Holy Word: Salvation]] or not?” and if not then go for [[Lightbomb]]. Also go for Lightbomb if you have a bit of a dive comp
[[Speed of the Pious]] is king for me. An instant mount and pretty big CDR on the same ability is really good, I picked it even before the CDR was added.
[[Renew]] and [[Inner Focus]] are great, pick whichever you want but I prefer Renew personally (Inner Focus stacks with Evenhanded Blessings btw), [[Glyph of Faith]] is nice if you need more Leaps of Faith or picked the 13 for Leap of Faith. [[Holy Nova]] is bad and you really shouldn’t pick it, the damage needs you to be close to the enemy and as someone who has a delay on all healing that isn’t great and the heal needs you to be close to allies taking damage which could result in you taking more then you bargained for also.
For the 20 just take whichever ult upgrade ([[Light of Stormwind]] or [[Inner Fire]]) it is. You can also take [[Censure]] as that is a nice stun if you can hit it reliably.
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- Evenhanded Blessings (Anduin) - level 1
If Flash Heal is cast on a different target from its last, increase its healing by 15% and refund 40% of its cooldown.
- Moral Compass (Anduin) - level 4
Divine Star fires Basic Attacks at Heroes close to its apex.
Passive: Increase Attack Range by 1.1.
- Desperate Prayer (Anduin) - level 7
Cooldown: 35 seconds
Activate to instantly heal an allied Hero for 375 (+4% per level), but kneel for 2 seconds, unable to act.
- [R] Holy Word: Salvation (Anduin) - level 10
Cooldown: 80 seconds
Mana: 70
After 0.5 seconds, Channel to invoke the Light for 3 seconds. While nearby, allied Heroes heal for up to 30% of their max Health and are Protected.
- [R] Lightbomb (Anduin) - level 10
Cooldown: 60 seconds
Mana: 70
Imbue an allied Hero with the Light. After 1.5 seconds, it explodes, dealing 150 (+4% per level) damage to enemies and Stunning them for 1.25 seconds. The target gains a Shield that absorbs 165 (+4% per level) damage per enemy Hero hit. Lasts for 5 seconds.
- Speed of the Pious (Anduin) - level 13
While Divine Star is traveling, gain 30% Movement Speed. Each allied Hero healed by Divine Star on its return to Anduin reduces its cooldown by 1 second.
- Renew (Anduin) - level 16
Flash Heal heals an additional 180 (+4% per level) over 6 seconds. The duration of this heal is refreshed each time Anduin hits an enemy Hero with a Basic Attack.
- Inner Focus (Anduin) - level 16
Cooldown: 20 seconds
Activate to reset the cooldown of Flash Heal and its next cast heals for 25% more. Damaging enemy Heroes reduces this cooldown by 1 second.
- Glyph of Faith (Anduin) - level 16
Leap of Faith gains a 2nd charge.
- Holy Nova (Anduin) - level 16
After Anduin catches Divine Star, it explodes, healing nearby allied Heroes for 105 (+4% per level) and damaging enemies for 150 (+4% per level).
- Light of Stormwind (Anduin) - level 20
Holy Word: Salvation grants allied Heroes Invulnerability instead of Protected. This does not affect Anduin. Channeling Holy Word: Salvation for its full duration reduces its cooldown by 60 seconds.
- Inner Fire (Anduin) - level 20
The target of Light Bomb gains 40% Move Speed and 50 Armor for 3 seconds.
- Censure (Anduin) - level 20
Chastise Stuns for 0.75 seconds and its Root duration is increased by 0.5 seconds.
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Damn thanks dude, didn't expect this, helps a lot!
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i use mostly the same talents. but i LOVE the primary ult if they don't have a ton of CC to interrupt me. lightbomb overall is very strong if you have coms with a teammate for an engage with it. but since i like to heal as a healer i often use the healing ult for healing (obviously) and it becomes insanely strong with the lvl20 talent.
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No problem, hope you enjoy playing him
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You went for all the Divine Star talents but didn't pick up [[Power Word: Shield]]? I agree with most of the rest, I wouldn't touch Desperate Prayer with a 10 foot barge pole. I usually go [[Blessed Recovery]] at 7 just as a small anti-dive measure. I also love Glyph of Faith and can't imagine not taking it, even without taking [[Enchant Boots - Lion's Speed]].
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I don’t take Power Word: Shield as I find the other Devine Star talents don’t need it to be good. I’ve done perfectly fine without it personally
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Fair enough. I often use Divine Star as my go-to healing when someone is in danger, so that extra shield before the healing kicks in suits how I play.
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- Power Word: Shield (Anduin) - level 1
While Divine Star is traveling out, allies in its path gain a Shield that absorbs 128 (+4% per level) damage for 4 seconds. If Divine Star hits an enemy Hero, Anduin gains a Shield that absorbs 185 (+4% per level) damage for 4 seconds.
- Blessed Recovery (Anduin) - level 7
If Anduin loses more than 8% of his maximum Health at once, recover 15% Health over 3 seconds. This effect has a 10 second cooldown. Current Health required: 133 (+4% per level)
- Enchant Boots - Lion's Speed (Anduin) - level 13
Gain 5% Movement Speed. This bonus is quadrupled while Leap of Faith's cooldown is available. Allies pulled by Leap of Faith are healed for 280 (+4% per level) over 4 seconds.
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for Deathwing Q build might be the preferred build among players, but dragonflight build is personally my favourite (1,2,2,2,3,2,3), it's the build where you get to carry the most, and it's the build where you have the most impact. You just need to ensure you aren't countered in the form of massive amounts of % damage.
Land on top of the enemies, they have -75% damage and -15% spell armour and 40% slow for 5 seconds. You do 40% more spell damage with destroyer's rampage, 70% more basic attack damage against the slowed targets and 50% reduced cooldowns.
You also beat a rexxar 1v1 in lane if you are on braxis or dragon shire.
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Deathwing is now more often played as a mage using the full Q build - [T3131111,Deathwing] played in the 4 man. (level 1 can be switched out for Molten Blood, but I find Draconic Might better)
However, there are some scenarios where a W build ([T1222333,Deathwing]) can be better, which is vs lower damage comps, this often happens when they pick Rexxar.
If the enemies are heavily focused on dive, consider switching out to a landing build, 7 Firestorm, 16 Gaze and 20 God. Landing on them as a counter engage makes it harder for them to dodge while possibly deciding the TF then and there
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Anduin fanboy here:
Go full W build, choose salvation as 10 & 20.
Use E & W on cooldown and R when things start to get messy. Please try not to die.
After like 20 games u get a feel for him and can try to use D to safe teammates.
After 50 games or 3x MVP, whatever comes first, you can experiment with other talent choices.
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Try and use d on teammates in the first 20 games too 😅
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especially if it's alexstraza, jaina, li ming, nova or sylvanas; some members of this sub would add zagara to the list as well.
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All you need to know about Deathwing is don't use Destroyer form. There, now you are a master Deathwing player.
How come lmao
Dead in about 2 seconds. 3.5 seconds if you took the shield at level 1.
Ignore this advice.
Deathwing is a niche counter pick to teams that have failed to pick % dmg and or have HEAVY punishing cc. Deathwing laughs at picks like uther and junkrat and garrosh, who to most heroes are extremely threatening, but with perma unstoppable and no % damage, you can virtually live in their team for a long time.
If enemy team has 0 % dmg, you should almost ALWAYS go melee deathwing "w" build, so that you are healing on each w cast, and building up extremely high burning rage from w stacks.
If enemy team DOES have some % dmg, you should consider going ranged fire breathing build, which requires your team to have some decent lockdown/cc, anything that keeps enemies from leaving your fire breath, which deals HEAVY spell damage.
If you are picking deathwing early or playing in qm, you'll be forced to play ranged/safe build more, but if you're picking him as a niche counter, then you should be able to play melee build pretty frequently.
Sounds pretty cool man, thanks for the advice, for my next character, who should I get? In your own opinion, thanks again dog
Can't say without knowing your hero pool/what type of heroes you already like to play!
The abilities in that form are melee, and he doesn't have a lot of survivability in that mode (at least not until later in the game once you've gotten a few talents with it, plus it can be dangerous depending on their team) World Breaker form is just so much safer
I would like to add that u shouldnt fly at the start of the match. Thats how u know, if the player is good dw or just wants to try him out …