There's this meme and it reminds me of why I'm NC for life
There's this meme that's been going around and it's like "F*ck People. Get the red car and people will say you should have gotten blue. Go to trade school and people will say you should have gone to college. Start a business and people will say you should go get a job." I'm paraphrasing here, but I hope you get the idea.
Then the meme (with a picture of a motivational speaker at the top) says that people will always have an opinion, don't try to please them, and do what you were going to do anyway.
I keep reading this meme over and over again. My nfather, when I let him back into my life, always had something to say about everything I did. I wanted to start a business in my 20's -- I have my degree, but always found myself underemployed and working in places I hated. He talked me out of it. It was a big regret. I wanted to join the military to help pay off my student debt and get more education -- he told me I couldn't physically do it. He told me I wasn't good enough. I was too liberal -- I was too feminine. I swear, I look back at the things he said about me to my face and I wonder who he was looking at or talking about! I've always been a tomboy! I'm very hard working and I could have started a business years ago. Instead, I put so much extra work and effort into working these low wage jobs and I got exploited.
He always told me any and every decision I made was wrong and bad. He talked me out of good decisions. My nmother was the same way.
Anything I did was wrong, not good enough, never pleased them, and they never gave me an ounce of support. They see someone when they look at me, they think of someone when they think of me, but whoever the heck they're seeing isn't an accurate portrayal of all I've struggled to become. I work harder than both of them ever had to. Nmother stole from me to get her education and Nfather had rich parents -- money that stayed with him and some bits filtered to his step children. I didn't have basic necessities growing up, but his step kids went to $800 soccer camps (in the 90's!) and had all these new electronics.
My nmother used my name to get student loans for her. She also used child support money to pay her way through school and graduate with little to no debt. I was left to fend for myself, while she played victim and told the whole extended family I was abusive to her. I was just a kid and teen! I tried so hard to make her love me!
Anytime they were in my life, they used me -- for emotional nonsense or their own financial gain. I never could get the red car. I could be covered from head to toe and I would never be dressed conservative enough for them. Especially with step sisters on both sides who dressed like little hookers when they were young and they were revered!
I'm old now, so I can't show any skin without looking trashy -- so I just aim for classy. Both both nrents taught me to hate my body. To abuse myself. To punish myself. To never try because even when I put myself into something fully -- working hard day and night -- according to both of them -- that was never, ever good enough.
This is why I have to stay no contact. They will do anything they can to talk me out of living my life to the fullest. I'm trying to quit my job and sustain myself doing what I love. If either were still in my life, instead of a loving "You can do it!" it would be a million reasons why I can't, shouldn't, or won't be able to.
Nrents are so messed up. Parents are supposed to guide, support, and give love. They're not supposed to be overly critical, condescending, nor bash all of our hopes into impossibilities.
I was so hard on myself (something else they criticized me for, funnily enough) and I just made everything a zillion times harder -- I would try so hard, overly hard on things I didn't need to -- to prove that maybe even though I was garbage, I could maybe hang out with all the normal, capable people for a few seconds. If I ever got a compliment, I never trusted it. I always heard one of their voices telling me the compliment was just because the person felt sorry for me, pitied me, or was "just being nice" or they "had to say it" because whatever I did was so bad and pathetic....
So messed up.
And that's why I'm no contact forever. I don't need to wait until they're dead to actually work towards what I want to do in life. Also, the work it's taken me to understand that 1. I'm not mentally disabled in a way that would keep me from achieving a normal enough life (omg they both would tell people and myself I had all these disabilities too -- very disrespectful to all the people out there with real disabilities kicking major butt at life!), 2. I'm not worthless, while everyone else is inherently more worthy than I'll ever be, and 3. Everything they told me was a lie because they wanted to manipulate me or literally steal money by taking out student loans in my name.
So F them. And yay for that meme. Thanks meme, I would like to remake it in a way that talks about nrents.
I might or might not.
Thanks for reading. Love and support to you all.
Posted Aug 28, 2021, 3:42 PM UTC
so much of this really spoke to me, especially when you said that whomever they see when they think of you isnt who you actually are. its been really hard for me to separate who i want to be from who they made me believe i am and reading your explanation of it helped a lot
my mom used to say a lot of the same things too, one of her favourites was "why even bother, you know youre never going to finish it anyway"
nrents got a weird way of getting you to believe that you dont deserve anything in life, because they want to continue being able to control you. they want you to stop trying to escape and sit comfortably under their heel for the rest of your life, even after theyre gone.
they really do -- that's why I can't let them back in ever -- I think the reason it has such a big impact is because when the whole world is hard, parents are supposed to be in our corner -- on our side -- even if it's in a way we don't agree with at the time, they're supposed to give love and support, guidance and caution, encouragement and logic -- My nrents were emotional wrecks, dramatic, and made things into huge messes. Neither of them understand the values of strength and deescalation. It's so crazy -- they both need me to be pathetic -- it validates them somehow if I'm so awful. They would love it if I was homeless again, especially if this time it was my fault and if I had stopped going to work -- If I was arrested for something it would validate them both -- when bad things happen it makes them so happy, it's to them like "Yes, she's finally become the piece of trash we've made her out to be!" -- but even arrested once wouldn't be enough -- if I get killed it wouldn't be enough -- they would need to be proven right over and over again --
All of this is something my therapists never understood. They would just say "oh they love you, they're just looking out for you, quit being so dramatic" and my therapists too would see me lazy and incompetent or just immature -- but lucky I didn't take that crap from outsiders and I would just stop going.
It just hurts so bad because life is a challenge for everyone and for so long I went to every single other person for emotional support. That's too much for casual or even close friends at times. It's not too much for parents -- regular ones -- most of the time. For my nrents, I was their emotional support. I wasn't allowed to cry or I wasn't crying enough, everything had to be on their schedule. And I had better be there for them to have a shoulder to cry on! That was a must!
They needed everything and that left me needy with others. Ugh. Sorry to type back so much, your words spurred more words and really helped me step back and look at my life from another angle. This is why it was so hard for me to have friendships and relationships.
yeah my mom would always find some way to turn everything i tried and failed at into an insult towards her and would be happy whenever something blew up in my face..usually because i was doing it alone and she would silently watch me fuck up and then laugh before scolding me for not "thinking things through" (ex. drying cleaned dishes from the rack in the wrong order causing the heavy cutlery to flip the whole thing back into the dirty dishwater)
ugh! i went through so many therapists before i could find one who took the time to understand how nuanced my moms emotional abuse is, i really hope you can find someone who can help lessen your mental burden.
i relate heavily to everything youre saying here and my god is it ever difficult to find friends who have the capacity to listen to the shit going on in my head and/or at home. the only friends ive had were fellow survivors which can be hard in its own way because one has to give as much as one takes in a friendship and emotional support goes both ways but can be draining sometimes.
Yes, it's rough! I can definitely relate to what you mean about nuanced abuse -- that's a really good way to put it!
Yes, my nmother would always say things like "you should have thought things through" but never actually did so herself either! Also, my house doesn't even have a dishwasher! That was a huge point of contention too! Ugh omg!
Anyway, sending you a big hug. Thanks for taking the time to talk this out and relate. Working through this stuff is important. We always need to remember that what we went through is not normal or healthy.
I hope your healing journey continues to bear fruit and you continue to empower yourself and other survivors!