Posted Aug 31, 2021, 3:10 AM UTC
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finally breeze 2
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Dear God no
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Guess we're going to space
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Maybe a big open mid area, like in Ascent, looks promising
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de_nuke with bad ingame HRTF ? I'm glad Windows Sonic is working just fine...
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[removed]
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I hope they are going to improve ingame HRTF soon. It's so slow to change audio direction (you can test it in the range with boombot) and we need ALL sounds to be directional audio, not just footsteps...
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Are there differences based on PC specs? I swear to god my audio is god awful, but it seems like some of my friends isn’t. When some situation happens when I literally couldn’t properly identify where the footsteps were coming from, it always seems like my friends get divided in “I also had no idea” and “you seriously couldn’t hear?”
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The solutions :
1/ The game with no external HRTF solution and no HRTF ingame checked : unplayable. Nothing is spatialized. Even left/right is not precised at all.
What I mean when I say "external HRTF solution" : softwares. It can be gaming headset with 5.1/7.1 drivers OR Windows Sonic/Dolby Atmos (software you can use for any stereo headset which does not provide 5.1/7.1 drivers).
2/ The game with no external HRTF solution BUT HRTF ingame checked in audio parameters : meh. Not perfect but better. Not all sounds are spatialized. Only footsteps and capabilities it seems. And it's slow (as I said).
3/ The game with external HRTF solution : almost perfect. Just a slight delay of audio like 50-100ms.
4/ DON'T USE IT : external HRTF solution + HRTF enabled in audio parameters : this can be very bad. Because both algorithms are applied on the audio source and it can't be good.
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What you described is the big problem of the game. I got perfect audio information with windows sonic (which is free) but a lot of my teammates have nothing activated and they can't here anything.
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[removed]
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I hope so. I will try their HRTF again. Like I said in reply of other comment, external HRTF solution like Windows Sonic is almost perfect but I got a delay in audio ouput like 50-100ms. Obvious when using knife on a wall.
That's not a problem in 99.99% of the situations but it's frustrating when using knife in buy time :>
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what's wrong with hrtf?
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The one implemented in-game is not good. Slow to change direction and not all sounds are included. I love HRTF but not the one in-game in his current state. Windows Sonic is way better for example and is free (and works with Valorant despite what said the "audio engineer")
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What sounds aren't included?
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i love the 2d animation
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Maybe you can cross over the gap with abilities here to rotate faster. Or maybe this whole area is out of the map.
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I’m assuming the latter
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Koth_nucleus
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Nuke
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Hope this is a close range map like bind
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I hope there is a mid, not like bind ..
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Nuke vibes? :D
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If you can’t shoot across the reactor onto the other side of the catwalk I’ll be upset
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Yoooo Place is technically in USA, but giving off Aussie Vibes
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we finally eating fam
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Valorant leaks said that the map would allow defenders to play offensively, or take a more offensive position. I'm assuming based on the battle pass that its going to be like a mirror map. So that it doesn't matter what side you are on, the spawns will be the same, paths to sites will be the same, etc.
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i hope this time they will break the horribnle design streak. icebox and breeze are fucking horrible. icebox is playable to some extent but breeze looks like fucking battlefield map. the most RNG map in valo. you will get tapped by vandal on A 75% while being with operator
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i hope they will remove icebox with this
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All of us (Not all maybe but most of us) hates breeze and then they release a new map. hope this map will be better than breeze
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Breeze is fine people just don’t know how to play it.
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Breeze just exposes people who can’t aim properly
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I don't get why this comes up every time someone says anything bad about Breeze. The reality is, Breeze is a very big and open map, so good teamplay and ability usage is very important if you don't want to spend 30 minutes getting shot in the back. Given how inconsistent matchmaking can be at times, with teammates that don't communicate or only pick duelists (especially in lower ranks) I don't think it's that surprising that many people hate that map. How good your aim is doesn't matter if you are getting peeked from 3 different angles at the same time.
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can't you tell if someone's aim is bad on ascent?
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And boosts people who can't everything else properly.
The skill distribution needed for breeze is shifted, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. it just sucks that it's different for different maps, making the whole ranked experience more inconsistent.
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It has a few problems but it’s solid. Like the pyarmids don’t have a good way to distinguish between in callouts, would be nice if they were A and B or something.
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Left titty, right titty, cleavage
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I rarely get to play it cause it’s dodged all the time.
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breeze fucking sucks
the "uh ur aim bad" argument is bullshit. if your aim is bad youll do bad at every map. if your aim is good you'll do good no matter the map.
Breeze has so many entrances to every site and so many angles to clear its somehow a torture both on defense and attack
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This is true. Breeze is only fun if you have sentinels that play well, controllers that smoke, and a team that holds angles. The map is awful solo queue because you have to rely on your team and util so much. When you have insta lock Reyna pushing A every round and a KillJoy with a setup that watches one angle, it isn't fun.
I also hate the amount of Viper on the map. She's the only good controller because there is too much space for the other ones too smoke.
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i swear people keep dodging breeze and then complain about how the map is trash
maybe just learn to play on breeze? and adjust? its that easy
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Same thing happened with Icebox until players learned the map. Breeze feels different though, a map that's hard to attack and to defend. Needs good coordination and comms, so not happening in solo Q.
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I feel you but at the same time, this map has been picked so many times these past games
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Only people who can't aim or adjust their playstyle dislike breeze.
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I love Breeze, it's my favorite map
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Best map of the game for me.
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Ikr, as a Yoru main, Breeze is a banger
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I fee like this is de_nuke lol.
The reactor and the rafters. I bet this map will have the sites in two different elevations/floors.
We'll never have a map like Nuke unless they rework abilities like Brim smoke, Omen ult, etc.
They won’t have to rework those. Just the “map” that pops up.
I guess that's what I mean with rework. Let's call it a change.
I mean brim ult doesn't need a change, just hits 2x the map we call that value. Why rework brim just make a map he excels in
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Hope not. Vertigo and nuke are the worst maps for esports experience and not that fun playing either.
one of the best*
How are they good for esports? Tactical play is lacking, hard to follow for casual viewers. In nuke Ts need to use like 3 smokes to even try to play for outside control and there are still more angles. And when Ts get bomb down its really hard to retake.
you need to use like 3 smokes on basically ever map the fuck are you on about. Either its all on the execute or like in nuke to position.
Vertigo is an S tier map.
Horizontal audio is just bad. Even if it would work, in vertigo the problem is that you cannot rotate fast because sound cues are always heard. It decreases tactical aspects of the gameplay. Vertigo and nuke both also have issues of ”area control”. Best tactical maps are the ones where you fight for control and based on that it gives you more possibilities to make innovative plays.
Hate vertigo but I like nuke.
Also, they can do it differently, so you never know.
??? nuke is fucking amazing
Nuke is better than vertigo for sure. Its also oldest de-map with dust1. But also if you think about how many times they have tried to fix it kinda speaks for itself. Its has a legendary status for sure but it does not make it a great map. Also these layered maps are really hard for casual esport viewer to understand what is going on.
Vertigo is a blast. Just because csgo players only play dust 2 and mirage doesn’t mean they’re the worst maps.
I think dust2 is also quite bad map especially when CTs have to use one of their best tools, a smoke, in the beginning to just to get to B is weird for me. Mirage, cache, inferno are great and I also think that ancient has a lot of potential.
Old nuke was the best. And the map dev from nuke is the map dev for valorant
Like the original when the secret was behind garage? Or with new secret? The first iteration was not that good but after the cs:source version it got better that you can run in vents and with new secret. But I dont know. The old version was really CT-sided. They have tried so many variations to make it more even but the layout is quite hard to balance. You have very little this ”we fake site x and then go y” -aspect. Many times you just need to commit to the site. I have played CS over 20 years and I kinda love nuke for casual play but for esports its not just that good.
edit: just realized that nuke will turn 22 years in two weeks. And yes Im also old. 😁
New secret