ChewMyFudge•

Politicians justify the need for the bill by stating that it is intended to fight child exploitation (CSAM) and terrorism.

Yea just out of the blue they grew a conscious. Give me a break.

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5dascension2020•

Think of the children

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aguacate•

Oh they're thinking of the children.

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blue_13•

"Hide yo kids, Hide yo wife" has never seemed more relevant.

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Iblisellis•

Just an excuse for government overreach so let's be honest here; they'll catch fuck all pedophiles because they're all in high positions anyway, so the 99% of people that aren't pedophiles will be directly affected by this Bill that's meant to affect the 1%.

Ol' Billy Boy fucked up and brang pornography to school so now we're strip-searching all school members upon arrival to the school.

Or, Billy fucked around in class and now you're all staying back after the bell.

Patriot Act 2.0.

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yexAg•

they're all in high positions anyway

No they aren’t the vast majority of child abuse is by people who know or have guardianship of the child, mostly the parents, regular ordinary mostly working class. Abused children mostly say it was somebody nobody suspected, not shadowy figures trafficking children to exotic locations on jets.

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yexAg•

Sure, this is a typical scenario you describe and like your case only 9% or so of abuse is thought to be sexual, far away from the sensational pedo stories that fill the media. A lot of the abusers also manoeuvre themselves into positions where they can access children, charities, social work, medical etc.

Hope everything turned out ok.

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Yeah rich people don't molest children to trust me that s*** about private jets and children and all it's true not saying working people don't do it too but it's true

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I'd guess that the p3do thing is mostly on there to garner support ("think of the children!"), the real impetus is that infamously vague "terrorism" word. "One man's 'freedom fighter' is another's 'terrorist,'" after all, and we've all seen the Aussie gov't's shenanigans the last few months.

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Your high school didnt have random locker checks?

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schmiddyboy88•

your home isn't high school. your phone is YOUR property.

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xhowlinx•

apple is "using" the same premise for their next phone.

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xhowlinx•

...which will also send your info (including live video from your cameras) to leo satellites. --- under "S.O.S. iphone messaging" ....

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8uwotm8•

And yet aussies cant monitor or control their f45cists online and irl activities and devices...

1 sided f45cism.

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ABirthingPoop•

Ya both sides of the isle number one thing in common is fucking kids.

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SR_71_BB•

Yeah- there are 60 odd politicians here, that have ousted as Pedo's- and there is a 60 yr ban on any FOI enquires.

Same as the "Port Arthur Massacre"- sealed for 30 or 90 years (cant remember which now- i tried a FOI with the Tasmanian Grubberment & Police a decade ago)

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neoj8888•

“Always accuse your opponent of that which you are doing.” -Saul Alinsky

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erholm•

Get ready to see absolutely nothing about what is going on in Australia from private citizens.

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Somethin's fucky

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DaryatashOP•

SS: do I really need one? Under these circumstances they could literally frame you for anything. Truly disgusting.

When presented with such warrant from the Administrative Appeals Tribunal, Australian companies, system administrators etc. must comply, and actively help the police to modify, add, copy, or delete the data of a person under investigation. Refusing to comply could have one end up in jail for up to ten years, according to the new bill.

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devils_advocaat•

Copy I can understand. Delete also.

Add and modify implies falsification of evidence.

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uberduger•

My guess is they'd argue that 'add or modify' is to add specific surveillance apps or code, but in reality, it's exactly what you said - a way to plant evidence.

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CatpricornStudios•

How much compromising footage do the Five Eyes from Snapchat alone?

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haupt91•

Why would you allow the authorities to delete something from someone's private phone?

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devils_advocaat•

I was thinking enforced removal of offensive content from a public server.

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haupt91•

You want the authorities to be able to remove offensive content from the public?

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Extreme-Tea•

They're telling you it's high time to ditch mainstream social media like facebook.

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TheBigBadDuke•

Or else.

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Melchizedek0001•

It’s beginning to look a lot like China.. has the CCP taken control of Australia?

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Delphi373•

It is China - and the Elite use China to further their aims

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Flop_McKochen•

Or… a lot of this is just simply made to look like China for one reason or another. If I were the Illuminati (for lack of a better term), I’d make a lot of things look like China.

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FlexDundee•

Australia is fucked. Full police state mode here, full lockdowns even though cases are still going up during the lockdowns. The joints fucked mate.

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randomdudeonthe•

Australia: The elite's playground. God bless them.

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Nearly time To get rid of social media and mobile phone then.

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Everyone should throw away there devices and get offline.

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FR3DF3NST3R•

Australia's right wing government is crazy as fuck. This is what happens when one man controls most of the media. It's fox news the country at this stage. The Murdoch empire needs breaking up. The UK is just as bad

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MysticTOP•

Right wing? Both of our parties are to the left of the democrats. They're essentially the same as each other with minute differences. If you read the article you'd know it passed with bipartisan support.

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FR3DF3NST3R•

The terms left and right wing aren't American. The Democrats are economically on the right of the spectrum. Labor are shit I know but not as bad as the Democrats. The greens stood up to it from the left.

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ovrloadau•

Liberals in Australia are centre right conservatives, while labor who are since the 80’s a centre right third way party

Both support economic liberalism

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Morphnoob•

Ugh the terms "left and right" are so distorted. On the spectrum it goes from total government to no Government.

Ie, communism, fascism, dictatorship being far left, anarchy far right.

Today, all governments are approaching far left.

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ordinaryBiped•

You need to go get your head checked.

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FR3DF3NST3R•

The Australian government is Authoritarian right. There's nothing left wing about them. The left is egalitarian and they are very much not. They are fine with the power of the monarchy and the church and large corporations. Economically liberal and socially conservative. Right wing shitcunts.

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Morphnoob•

You're so far off it's painful.

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FR3DF3NST3R•

The Liberals are the party of small government in Australia. Scomo was Trump's biggest fan. Took his crazy Christian pastor to meet him. He would have us all mutilating baby dicks For the zionists if he could. The term right wing comes from those who sat with the church and the crown in revolutionary France. The Australian government would be sat with the queen and Cardinal kiddy fucking Pell . While Labor and the Greens would be sat with the people.

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fascism, dictatorship being far left

Oh, that's convenient that your baseless reconstruction of political ideologies puts fascism squarely on the opposite side of where you are (despite that being the opposite of reality).

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Iblisellis•

Exactly. It's a shame more people don't understand this; my sister broke down into tears and called me a Nazi for saying Fascism is left-wing. I even explained to her why the Communists put it on the right.

They're even taught Anarchy is left-wing. What the fuck?

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love-s8n•

i think you should at this point rly look up the definitions of fascism and communism because what you told her rly makes no sense at all and also pls look up the difference between left and right wing

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Anarchism is a political philosophy and movement that is sceptical of authority and rejects all involuntary, coercive forms of hierarchy. Anarchism calls for the abolition of the state, which it holds to be undesirable, unnecessary, and harmful. As a left-wing movement, placed on the farthest left of the political spectrum, it is usually described alongside libertarian Marxism as the libertarian wing (libertarian socialism) of the socialist movement, and has a strong historical association with anti-capitalism and socialism.

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Iblisellis•

Still doesn't make any sense when left is more state/government control and collectivism and right is less state/government control and individualism.

That's why Nazism, Fascism, Communism, Marxism, and Socialism are all left - there is more state/government control and more collectivism. Classic Liberalism, Libertarianism, Anarchism are right as there's less state/government and less collectivism.

Depends on which way you look at left vs right I guess, whether it's a wing, horseshoe, graph, compass, etc. with different variables.

I've always been centrist, maybe leaning a little right in favor of personal liberty with a touch of government healthcare/infrastructure but most western society's have gone so far left that anyone in the middle starts looking like a right-wing extremist.

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Fuck, time to go and tell r/Anarchism we’re on the right.

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Peter5930•

Batshit right wing authoritarians down under. They've been doing this kind of shit there for years. Nobody associates Australia with right wing authoritarianism, but the culturally conservative rural voters keep voting them in.

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EASY_EEVEE•

see i think it'll confuse Americans more when, our right wing government (in power atm), is literally called the 'liberal party' and our left wing is called the 'labor party'

The libs have been in power since 2013 to 2021.

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ovrloadau•

Labor isn’t left wing, they’re third way neoliberal

Our left wing party are the Greens

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EASY_EEVEE•

yeah you're not wrong.

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ManMilkification1•

be sure to run a VPN on your phone

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KidKarez•

We tried to warn them

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shit_fire_fuzzy•

time to go back to the stone age...the time BEFORE smart phones (B.S.P.)...way back to the year...um....

2010?

where is Bill and Ted when you need them

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Kimera25•

New world order

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rigain•

Open source phones are going to be the way forward

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For example?

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EliMello•

This is because of the truckies, we got a unique situation happening where they have apparently taken over the truckies social media to censor everything happening with the truck blockade. This is why this was rushed through. The trucks are blocking some highways actually but the media is not reporting it. People are thinking it was a flop but it’s not, they’re still blocking it and it’s plain to see. People will eventually figure this out when their parcels are stuck at one destination and the shops run out of food. It’s kind of pathetic, even if they censor everything people are very close to finding out for themselves, I’ve ordered some parcels and even I can see what’s happening because the ones in Sydney aren’t moving at the moment.

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Sanni11•

Remember tnt depots are closed in sydney, so that's a fair portion of freight being pushed on alternatives

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Solarpunkish•

Time to start disconnecting hard drives from internet connected devices.

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postonrddt•

Apparently this bill or variant of it has been proposed since 2018 with some raising concerns about the effect on the international community.

https://thehill.com/opinion/cybersecurity/414743-new-aussie-bill-spells-trouble-for-data-privacy-around-the-world

Why the rush now.

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yexAg•

UK has something similar, so for example the local food standards agency can check somebody’s internet records without a warrant, just in case any terrorists are undercover in a pie shop, or something.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investigatory_Powers_Act_2016

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bitcoin_jackpot•

😨

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