somebadlemonade•

So I see a dimple on the top of the interior rose. The opposite side should have a tiny cut out for a thin screw driver to fit into. I used to use a thin putty knife under the screwdriver to avoid scratching the door. When I would pry them up. It should pop right off.

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burtod•

And fly across the room!

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somebadlemonade•

Of course, but it's off. . .

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eyetrackerOP•

There aren't any dimples on the top of either side, just picture quality but: the putty knife idea worked! Even if I didn't care about marring the door, I wouldn't have had enough leverage with the screwdriver, but with both I had to wrench hard from the bottom and it popped out (and yes across about 1/4 of the room).

Thanks for the idea!

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somebadlemonade•

Welcome to locksmith. Where goofy hair brained idea actually work.

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eyetrackerOP•

Thanks. When in doubt, Hulk out. It's been a give Home Depot money kind of week.

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grrimsomad•

As glad as as I am that you figured it out after coming to our virtual break room to ask questions, capping the conversation with the Home Depot comment kind of hurts. I'm sure the comment doesn't apply only to new door knobs but I can imagine it does just some. Maybe go to your local locksmith and patronize their business as they typically also sell locks and knobs and several other things you probably have no idea about. They also have a ton of knowledge you didn't even know you needed to make the job go easier or look cleaner. Just a thought...

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eyetrackerOP•

I'm trying to remove this screwless knob and having issues. It's likely quite old. The strike plate (or the door side of that, whatever it's called) says Kwikset but they couldn't give any info and it may just be the plate and a different brand of knob(s). The S009-009 didn't turn anything up.

The inside knob was easy to remove with the button, but I cannot remove the rose. There may be a pry point on the very bottom but it doesn't do anything except damage the door. There is zero wiggle so I don't think it's just stuck with stain.

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Barn312009Actual Locksmith•

Have you tried untwisting it? I just did one of those today, and for some odd reason I’ve done 4 this week so far. Find somehow to get ahold of it and twist the inside (of door) rose. That pry point at the very bottom is so you can get a hook in (that’s what I use anyway) there and help rotate the rose off.

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eyetrackerOP•

No twist on it, but it pried using the suggestion above. I did try this with vice grips, which was hard to get a grip but clearly wouldn't budge it.

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Barn312009Actual Locksmith•

Glad you got it! My apologies on wrong information. Was not my intent. I just took a guess based of similar products I’ve encountered!

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eyetrackerOP•

It was a good idea though, seemed very possible.

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Iboughtat2iActual Locksmith•

That hardware is probably older than I am so Im just going to throw ideas out. If there's a poke hole on the front knob try removing that side. Or like barn said, give it a twist. A thick rubberband put around the rose can increase grip. If all else fails just take some pliers and a flathead and rip/pry the rose apart until you can see screws. Or put a 1/4 drill bit into the rose around the center of 3 and 9 oclock (maybe 12 and 6) to find the screws. Not like youre trying to save the knob right?

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eyetrackerOP•

House is 50s, it could be original for all I know.

The unlock is scratched and cruddy but not an actual hole after scraping it.

I ended up getting it off but drill would've been my next choice. 3 and 9.

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