Drywall or mud didn’t adhere?

Just bought a house, wife asked to fill a crack under the window, thought no big deal, widen the crack and then fill with some spackle. Well not exactly what I was expecting, but this drywall-like material was only about an 1/8” thick and came off like crazy. I got all this off with my hand but I took a scrapper and got all the lose pieces off. Can I just get some joint compound and smooth this area over? I’m not sure what this is and would love some guidance, I’m not the handiest, maybe a 4/10, but I’ll try to fix it

pictures of what I’m talking about

Posted Sep 6, 2021, 12:42 AM UTC

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dmscheidt•

that's a real three coat plaster wall. The first two coats are the base, they're made of plaster and sand. The top coat (called the finish coat and the white coat, depending on who's doing the talking) is a lime plaster, usually without sand. Unsanded, lime finishes can be made glass smooth, and as flat as you want to pay for.

What looks like what has happened is the white coat is delaminating, which is usually caused by water damage. First, make sure the window isn't still leaking; fix it if it is. Then you need to remove any unsound plaster. Then you refinish. There are two reasonable routes. One is to use a setting drywall compound like easysand or durabond (not a pre mixed "all purpose" mud). The other is to use lime putty and gauging (probably not worth the effort unless there is historical value to the wall, or you're weird) and match what's there.

Either way, use a bonding agent (larsen's plaster weld or equivalent) first, because the existing plaster will suck the water out of your new stuff, and you'll have a hell of time getting it stick properly without one.

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AlterEffectOP•

Thank you for such a thorough reply! I’ll be following your advice on the repair tomorrow

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dmscheidt•

You probably won't be able to get plasterweld tomorrow (it's not sold in box stores, only real paint and plaster places). You can use something like quikrete's bonding adhesive (home depot normally have it), which works fine. The two big advantages of plsater weld is that it's bubble gum pink, so you can see where it's been put (their concrete bonding agent is blue, same reason), and it's got a longer (days) working interval between application and coating with plaster.

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unclejoe1917•

Looks like the plaster skim coat, along with the paint attached to it, separated from the rest of the plaster. You will see this around windows or other areas where the plaster has gotten damp from condensation or a leak. If you're sure you've gotten all the loose stuff, you can now fill in with plaster of paris, patching plaster, plaster magic, etc.

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benjacob30•

Do you live in a cold area? Probably condensation from windows in the winter. Not sure if plaster of Paris or Durabond. I just used dry spackle in the past for small patches without any pre-treatment with no issues. Bet you have more areas under other windows in your home.

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AlterEffectOP•

I’ll hAve to take a look, we are in SW PA, so we do get cold winters

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NumbersDonutLie•

Use Plaster of Paris

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Dap makes a plaster of Paris sold at lowes and places like that. I think you. An just apply that. Looks like your wall has a think layer of plaster. They used to do ceilings like that.

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RooferProofer•

Hope you're good at making the finish smooth, sanding plaster sucks!!! But ya they make the ready to go plaster mixes at paint stores like Sherwin Williams or spectrum (Benjamin Moore)

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AlterEffectOP•

Too bad I work for a competitor so I can’t go to those stores! yeah I can already tell sanding is going to be a pain, I’ll take my sander with me tomorrow to finish it

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