How can Islam preach peace, yet demand the death penalty for Hamza Kashgari because of a Tweet?!
edition.cnn.com/2012/02/12/world/asia/malaysi...Posted Feb 12, 2012, 11:55 PM UTC
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Where is this morality that muslims talk about? where is your humanity? How insecure and fragile are your beliefs??
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are you really all the surprised?
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not really.
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You gotta realize, if something seems evil, its not representing Islam. The Saudi's are doing their own thing man.
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That's a usual cop-out response. If something is nice, then it's always islam. If it's not nice, then it's just culture of the locals, the evil westerners or any other excuse.
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Religion can do anything they want because they both make the rules and interpret the rules.
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Very easy: his tweets "disrupt" the peace so to restore it, he needs to die.
I wish I was making this up.
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Scumbag Islam. Counters mere words with the barbaric violence of a beheading.
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So apparently, Hamza is now considered to be a terrorist:
http://my.news.yahoo.com/hisham-malaysia-no-safe-haven-wanted-052143713.html
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Post to /r/islam and see what they feel about it.
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Please sign the White House petition. http://wh.gov/0RJ
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Honestly, when did Islam ever preach peace? Forget about imaams, sheiks, scholars, moderates, modern "interpretations" of the faith, or any other bullshit and honestly ask yourself this question:
Did Mo ever seriously cared about peace? Humanity? Betterment for the world?
Never. It was all about Allah, submission, and doing everything necessary to expand the religion. A few "reforms and rights" for society? Sounds nice, but then you realize it was only because "God" allowed them. But slavery, gender discrmination, and child molestation? A-ok--only because "God" says so. Here we learn that it's not really about being a good person but rather obeying orders.
If it's one that I learned while I hung out with "pious" Muslims is that as long as Allah and Mo decreed something good or bad, it must be followed to the letter. It didn't matter if something "halal" was objectively harmful or disgusting. No amount of logic, reasoning, or common sense would change that.
On question I always had when I was a child was, "Why will Abu Talib burn in hell, even though he was a good person by all accounts and was loved by Muhammad?" The answer was simply because being good, honorable, and just means absolutely nothing to an all powerful and amazing god. What matters is faith--faith in a cruel, disgusting, jackass of a god and his infallible wingman.
Mo may have used ideals to inspire its believers for ulterior reasons but Islam has never ACTED solely for peace and never will. So no, this event does not suprise me or should suprise anyone else here either.
Would you make the argument that this "submission" also had to do with the state Mo created? I'm wondering how interlinked religion is with the state and how statist Islam is.
Islam succeeded in creating this political statehood doctrine since its conception for geopolitical reasons and other factors.
It resembles a political party more than it a religion, which makes me wonder, how will people treat islam if it was actually defined as a functioning political party, and not a religion.
Imagine how people would react if they looked at islam from a political scope; anti-semitism, free speech issues, religious intolerance, divinely sponsored supreme leader, sexual and racial discrimination, proselytizing, etc.
So Islam basically advocates a fairly authoritarian state?
putting it mildly