Female PCs, have any of you managed to avoid a relationship with Lann?

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I basically said to him "wow, I'm glad we're friends" and now my party members are all talking about what a good couple we are while camping, and apparently a load of people are having this issue too.

Posted Sep 15, 2021, 6:33 PM UTC

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Nephthys17•

Sure. By ditching his ass for the superior mongrel in the prologue.

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AbeLincolnsFreckles•

I ditched both of them and I still got stuck with Lann.

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Neverwherehere•

Yeah, at least Wenduag has the decency to ask if you wanna bang first.

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vilgellmSwarm-That-Walks•

Yeah, i had an unintentional romance with Lann i didn't even know about. Apparently, the sparring he invites you to is a "date" trigger.

At least Daeran, while annoying, had a decency to drop a more obvious hint.

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Ravenmausi•

Did you mean his "Zevran flirts in steroids", the masses of Roses, the bath tub or the no-date?

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vilgellmSwarm-That-Walks•

The no-date, at least he gave a chance to say a final "No" if you played along before. Unlike Lann.

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glowingjowel•

Yeah I have a male character and never thought about romance, then bam I'm in a no-a-date with daeran and have to tell him I'm not interested. He looked angry :/

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sporeegg•

Posh noble boy is notnused to being said no to. Surprised?

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ByneAzata•

I learned we were dating from his mother and immediately went to rectify that.

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DerWaechter_•

Same. I literally never went for any dialogue option I'd have guessed to be romantic with him, and I was actively pursuing the arueshalae romance.

Was like...what?

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Kattennan•

The game seems to completely lack just "friendly" dialogue options with Lann if you're playing a female character. Most if the time you can only pick between the romance option, the cold/indifferent option, or the outright mean option. So just by trying to be friendly you get pushed into his romance.

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DerWaechter_•

Yeah. I'm playing a chaotic good character, who's genuinely trying to make the world a better place on my first play through.

So always going for the encouraging/supporting/friendly dialogue options (my alignment is almost neutral good by now, because the chaotic options are just mean spirited or insulting 2/3 times.).

Pretty sure there was a dialogue choice where I told him I just saw him as a good friend, before the romance though, so it's still weird.

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CluelessLemons•

I think I found the first trigger. During his first conversation in the defenders heart tavern there is an option where you can ask him about relationships, although nothing in it hints at your character being interested. I got the achievement from that conversation.

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DerWaechter_•

Oh that would make sense. I tend to ask my companions all of the questions, just out of pure curiosity usually.

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CluelessLemons•

Same here. Turns out Lann takes things the wrong way 😅.

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JustAMan1234567•

They don't call him "Get in my van Lann" for nothing.

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NotNullTerminatedCleric•

Yeah, I did. I just never let him come too close, we're best buds (well, apart from 'waaaah, why don't you trust me' at the end... I DONT WANT YOU TO DIE OKAY) but nothing romantic. I think there was one point in his personal quest, where a certain relative asks you about the nature of your relationship, that may have been relevant, but that was really on-the-nose and could not be missed.

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Kattennan•

I outright told her no, but that doesn't seem to have stopped Lann. I even picked the "mean" option in the sparring match which caused him to sulk, but was otherwise generally nice to him. He still showed up in act 5 asking me to choose between him and Arueshalae, even though I'd never done anything that would suggest there was any sort of romance between me and him.

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Rexia•

I thought you meant because he's such a good guy and hard to turn down. Rejecting him every single time for Daeran always feels bad.

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TheTinyGMSorcerer•

Ahh, the "ninjamance", as its called in Dragon Age fandom. Its a common problem in rpgs which dont have specific tags for "flirt/romance" options.

I am playing a male Pc this time (romancing Daeran and male Pc fits more to that idea for me), but i easily avoided romancing everyone else except him by using a mod.

https://www.nexusmods.com/pathfinderwrathoftherighteous/mods/8

This mod has a special "see conversation result" option (or some similar name, i dont have it open rn) and the game shows you which options the game considers "flirting". So for example, its asking Sosiel to paint you, its joking around with Daeran during the Black Library quest (he finds it hot when you are chaotic as fuck), its... basically all options to Gallfrey during one point of convo, except neutral and telling her "she looks good for being so old" (that one is hilarious, she gets real offended.)

No idea what triggers Lann romance since I play as male PC, but imo its one of the "tell me more about you" options or smth. It was the same with Sosiel.

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ContextIsForTheWeakOP•

Thanks for the suggestion! Dont really like the idea of revealing all dialgoue results laid out just to avoid these. Maybe a future playthrough, or just to toggle for a single convo or two to make sure I get romance options right.

Seems from other options here that it's one specific convo when you first get to your Camp in Act 2 and he says something about protecting you. Theres four options, two of which seem pretty clear as romance options, one of which is like "well yeah, we're friends", and the other is "I'm the Commander, I dont need protecting."

Turns out Lann interprets "we're friends" as "we're dating"

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TheTinyGMSorcerer•

That's fair! I am quite an anxious gamer, so I prefer knowing what the options will give me, even though they are spoiler-y. However, you can easily turn it off and on for specific conversations in camp, me thinks.

Right, honestly, that wouldnt occur to me either. But then the option with Sosiel about drawing also doesnt seem that romantic, I would ask a friend to draw me if he was talented and happy about it like Sosiel! I avoided it only thanks to the mod.

I also heard however that up until Act 5, its only considered a "spark/flirt". If you flirted with more characters (aciddentaly or on purpose), they will ask you to choose definitely at the start of act 5, so you can avoid it that way.

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wesslen•

Thank you!

I was already using toybox but hadn't noticed this option. Was worried about Lann after seeing this topic come up a few times, but this works great: https://imgur.com/KsKd9LV

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Fancy-Ad1480•

I wish I knew. My character is sleeping with Daeran and Lann still thinks he and I are dating.

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Jaggedrain•

I think I have the same problem. We just sparred and he told me I'm pretty and I'm like... Yeah so is my sparkly boyfriend.

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AlexImHi•

Have any of you tried not clicking/exploring the romance dialogue? That's what I did when that dialogue option came up. My female pc in early act 3 rn and I don't see anything that would suggest lann likes me romantically.

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ContextIsForTheWeakOP•

Yeah I didn't either, or at least I think I didn't. Either a romance flag was messed up or Lann takes "we're friends" as "we're dating"

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NamelessCommander•

You did fine, the game's writing is a bit awkward at that trigger. Which happens in act 2 when he comes and says he wanna protect you. The "friends protect each other" option is meant as romantic. Go figure.

The only option to prevent the romance is "I'm the commander, I don't need protecting." You'd be forgiven to not take it, as it sounds like an asshole retort. I didn't too and inadvertently pushed my character in that whiny's ass romance.

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Kattennan•

There is no real way to avoid selecting the romance options with him unless you are actively mean/dismissive to him. Might be able to balance it out by picking some of those, but I never had any reason to act like a jerk to him.

A lot of the "friendly" options seem to be tied to his romance even if they don't seem that way. There wasn't much besides the sparring match that I noticed, until later on (early act 5 I believe) where I was basically asked to pick between him and Arueshalae, who was the only one I was actively making any attempt with.

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[deleted]•

I turned him down when he asked to spar and that cut off his romance for me.

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Sad-Particular-4798•

Yeah, I ended up in a 'relationship' with Lann too, now if beating the snot out of him up on the ramparts constitutes starting a relationship, then Lann has some serious kinks that lean toward masochism. Hope it doesnt interfere with my trying it on with Arushalae

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Ephemeral_Being•

Easily. Told him to storm off. Turns out, that works.

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Seigmoraig•

I did by murdering him when I had the chance and having a romance with my spider girl waifu

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