Australia's 'child labour camp' - Today Tonight
au.news.yahoo.com/today-tonight/latest/articl...Posted Feb 14, 2012, 1:52 PM UTC
Posted Feb 14, 2012, 1:52 PM UTC
The neighbors should be told, and the government of NSW needs to make child labor illegal.
Yeah I read Harry Potter too...
First reaction to him saying he lived in a closet...."You're a wizard Harry!!!"...(I know I'm going to hell for that...)
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So at no point did the old man think to go to the police and say "I believe my son has been kidnapped and is being held against his will"?
Really? No investigation of any kind from the police? If there really are kids in dire straits in there, how can the police NOT have become involved in some way?
While I believe the story, the reporting of it seems to be at best a bit of a media beat up. No real background, no research into the legality of operations etc.
While I'm not seeking to make excuses for the father not alerting the cops in the most timely fashion, something you have to understand about cults like Scientology is that they foster an "us versus them" mindset. Scientologists are indoctrinated to believe that everything out here in the "wog world" (no shit, that's what Hubbard called it) is corrupt and untrustworthy. Leaving a cult and shaking off those attitudes takes time. That's probably why the dad tried to rescue his son himself, without calling for backup.
I greatly look forward to the day when convoys of cop cars pull up at Scientology orgs.
No real background
Might this help? http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/02/scientology_shane_kelsey_rpf.php Start at "Adrian Kelsey made contact with me about 18 months ago." and go from there.
TIL in NSW, child labour isn't illegal.
(in other news, WTF NSW, child labour isn't illegal in your state?)
Chapter 13 of the CHILDREN AND YOUNG PERSONS (CARE AND PROTECTION) ACT 1998 (NSW) covers this:
"222 Endangering children in employment
A person who causes or allows a child to take part in any employment in the course of which the child’s physical or emotional well-being is put at risk is guilty of an offence."
If you are viewing a Today Tonight article, you are not allowed to use the phrase TIL because invariably it is unlikely you have learned anything.
Thanks - I was thinking it was a little odd since, well NSW and Victoria at least is heavy union territory and forgetting to make child labour illegal seems to be a rather large oversight.
Mind you - does the Act also cover how many hours a child is allowed to work? Because based on the descriptions, if there was a maximum hours worked law in place, the police would be able to go in and pull out anybody under age from any Scientology camp and hand them over to CPS.
Actually if anything TT said is true (50% chance perhaps?) the police should have grounds to take the under age into protective custody at least.
The provision is very subjective and vague to allow enforcement to be easier. Therefore there is no set circumstance that trigger, like maximum hours, merely putting a child's "physical or emotional well-being at risk".
There is a complicated procedure for removing the children, especially if the child's guardians are involved or the place of employment is also a dwelling. I won't attempt to explain it, not least because I am not experienced in the area, but the Director General of the Dept of Community Services has powers to remedy these situations and due to the complexity of the Scientology people and their brainwashing of children and their parents, it is likely the Courts will be involved in issuing warrants and other orders.
From one view point I hope they're already issuing warrants and going in (because endangered, slave labour children). From another view point - a purely intellectual one - I wonder if they CAN go in, if the TT 'investigation' is enough to provide cause for a judge to issue warrants and orders.
So when the hell is this group finally going to be shut down and kicked out of this country?
This is an automatically generated TL;DR, original reduced by 95%.
You're not allowed to read any books other than scientology books, you can't read newspapers, no radio, no movies, nothing," Shane said.
Shane Kelsey's mother and father were dedicated Scientologists in Sydney, so they put their son Shane into its highest core at the age of six - little Shane moved into a tiny room with eleven other children.
Shane and Adrian were followed by Scientology 'enforcers', so Shane reluctantly returned to the compound to avoid trouble.
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story is on TT, not sure if I should believe ಠ_ಠ
It's like the boy who cried wolf/lebenese kitchen germs in wonder bras making kids fat.
Hopefully some actual journalists will look into it now. I can wait.
4 corners featured this place in a Scientology episode a while ago.
[Relevant hilarious/depressing comment thread from the r/worldnews posting of this](http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/poyf4/church_of_scientology_secret_child_labour_camp_in/c3r4zwd).