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youniversawme

DRS account 733XXX -- in an IRA!

๐Ÿ’ป Computershare

EDIT: A great OG IRA-DRS ape, u/winebutch found a non-broker custodian, Mainstar Trust, who offers SDIRAs, has already DRS'd multiple IRAs with them, and has outlined the process beautifully here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/comments/scpxs9/another_path_to_drsira_with_no_taxable/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

For any who may not know, no surprise that Ally/ Apex has dropped the ball and a lot of potential clients, myself included, by requesting any previously DRS'd IRA shares be pulled back or they will be coded as a taxable distribution. Had a hunch, so I attempted to transfer within CS to a different custodian, without pulling them out of book entry-- this worked temporarily, but Computershare did catch on and moved my shares back, so I do not recommend Ally or the process I used in this post.

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(original post:)

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Here we go, all you soon to be retired apes and apettes (if you so choose), just got my traditional IRA into the DRS pool where it belongs...

read: Apex Custodian For Benefit Of (my) Traditional IRA

Edit: a friendly ape pointed out a much needed omission to the screenshot. Thanks, u/krissco !

INTERESTING NOTE: I was able to search for this account (since I did not have my Holder Account Number yet) using my SS#, and it and my Roth and my cash account all popped up as registered to it. I'm sure the custodian's EIN number is on there somewhere as well, but it is reassuring that these IRA accounts with CS still appear to be also under my own ID

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And just to be repetitive, the online account shot:

Yep, Apex Custodian For Benefit Of (my) Traditional IRA. Book shares. Nice.

If anyone has any interest whatsoever in how I did this with both my Roth IRA and now with one of my traditional IRAs (the rest are close behind), it's the same process for both, which I spelled out as clearly as I could here.

Only difference in the process was I took this same exact hand-scratched legal pad letter template (below) that I used for my Roth, and rather than emailing it to Ally's customer support, I uploaded it on their site via secure document upload.

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I know, I know, I shoulda used a crayon.

Uploaded this letter on the 25th of Oct., it has cleared today, the 29th, so 4 days from upload to DRS.

Also initiated transfer from my other 2 IRAs at TD on the same day, and one has just showed up in my Ally account at the same time the first round of DRS disappeared (now at Computershare).

From my last post, many apes had a lot of great questions and concerns on those posts regarding tax implications of selling, and how exactly one might go about that, so first I talked to an estate lawyer I know, who ran my scenario past their CPA and this was the voicemail message I received back:

"...she (CPA) believes that would work and that as long as it's a direct rollover it would not be taxable so hopefully that answers your question. She indicated if you wanted to call her to discuss it further she's willing to do that. She is familiar with Ally and she said she's comfortable with that company..."

I did leave a message this week and am waiting for a callback. Trying to pay to review the specifics and get something in writing, hopefully by next week.

Had some other questions which I just asked CS in a chat tonight before I saw there is going to be an AMA with Dave Lauer and Computershare at 4pm ET on Nov 3rd over on his sub. I'll post this chat below as I found out a few things I did not know.

Like if I even could possibly hit 'sell' from inside my CS account, if I ever wanted to...

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https://preview.redd.it/1c7s9j0cjiw71.png?width=1088&format=png&auto=webp&s=ddcf443f4f913e427c6c00cd1616a6ef44d8425c

aaaand sorry for the redundancy here, I have no idea how to make a decent Reddit post

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I like to ask questions right after I already get the answer to it. How I roll.

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Keyword: DRS Profile system. Remember this.

Kenneth and I seem to be talking about two different things here, which I clear up in a sec below, but still, the "incoming DRS procedure" received from Ally on my first post (i.e. via ACAT trfr form) appear to be WRONG.

I will go edit my previous post on that part, as this chat gets a bit more enlightening regarding getting shares from DRS *back* to my broker.

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BINGO. I CAN DRS BACK DIRECT THROUGH COMPUTERSHARE

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You can initiate a transfer out from DRS by sending a simple letter to Computershare with the details Kenneth spells out below:

Stay tuned for another hand-scrawled legal pad ape-letter template...

... and this time it'll be in crayon.

That is going to be hilarious. Walking into the bank in full moon boots, GameStop sweats, Ape Together Strong t-shirt, gorilla mask, bunch of bananas in one hand and crayon letter in the other (representing just an insane value) to get it medallion stamped.

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Now, regarding Apex,

This may be tricky for CS to answer. Not everyone plans for major corporations to just go ๐Ÿ’ฅ poof ๐Ÿ”ฅ

I did already submit this basic question for the AMA next week, but I think Kenneth answered it right off the bat with the stamped letter in order to sell a "Batch Order" and just receive a check. Then I think I can deposit the check back into any IRA account to be considered a rollover. Still need confirmation on this.

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There it is.

So my plan, whenever I feel like selling a share or 2, is to overnight a crayon written request letter to CS with all the "DRS Profile system" info Kenneth listed above, complete with medallion stamp, and in 2 days it will show up back in the broker IRA account. Then, DRS them back just for fun!

TL;DR

  • Already DRS'd my Roth, now I just DRS'd my traditional IRA after transferring to Ally. How I did that here.
  • Ran my process past a CPA who believes it is still tax protected and approves of Ally. -- still working on getting this approval in writing.
  • It **Appears** as if I have the option to just hit the sell button inside CS, but no dice -- all transactions for DRS shares in IRA account with Computershare do indeed require a Medallion stamp, no ifs ands or buts.
  • Easiest way to sell shares in an IRA in CS is to write a letter with all the info (listed above), get it stamped and overnight it straight to CS (address above)

For any new apes if this makes zero sense, basically:

  1. GME is naked shorted beyond belief, meaning more "shares" exist in the market (DTC) than should even be possible,
  2. To buy/ hold GME shares is good, but those you direct register with Computershare, GameStop's transfer agent, guarantees they are yours, removes them from the DTC, and is this # shares closer to forcing short sellers to close positions, i.e. pay you whatever price you want for yours.
  3. Many U.S. apes such as myself hold GME shares in retirement accounts like IRAs, and up until now it seemed rather difficult to DRS them without paying tax on withdrawals and penalties if under ~60 years old. The big brokers don't offer this, but they can, and some will. The above is one way I found to DRS my IRA.
  4. This is not tax, financial, gaming, market, culinary or equine advice. With their new and growing executive leadership, free cash position and developing tech, GameStop may just be the best kept secret in the entire market right now. And not just the stock market. But this is all just my smooth brained opinion. As for me,

I like the stock.

Posted Oct 30, 2021, 4:16 AM UTC ยท edited

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CinCity06๐ŸฆVotedโœ…โ€ข

Commenting for visibility! This is huge!

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oETFo๐Ÿฆง smooth brainโ€ข

Commenting on your comment for more visibility.

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Thx4Coming2MyTedTalk๐Ÿฆ๐ŸฆGorilla Warfare๐Ÿฆ๐Ÿฆ๐Ÿฆโ€ข

Awarding both comments for even more visibility! Apes probably own a float just in IRA.

This could be BIG.

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charleskingprodKen Griffin will soon use mayo as lubeโ€ข

Awarding your comment for awarding the two other comments for more visibility.

This is ENORMOUS!

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Joyride_vt๐ŸฆVotedโœ…โ€ข

Can I comment?

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AzureFenririnfinity, ape believe ๐Ÿฆ๐Ÿš€๐ŸŒŒ๐ŸŒ โœจโ€ข

Shares being held by a custodian (/r/Superstonk/comments/rcxt3p/ira_drs_information_regarding_custodial) falls under BENEFICIALLY OWNED SHARES in the image of ComputerShare's structure in the below DD

r/Superstonk/comments/q0mu9l/computershare_cs_now_has_a_diagram_that_shows/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

That means the shares are not removed from DTCC as Apex is a DTCC participant and they can potentially still lend your shares

Discussion on topic: r/Superstonk/comments/rcdkdo/comment/hnua8qp/

If necessary, do your own checks with ComputerShare(verify with the transfer agent, not the custodian as they have every reason to lie)

u/cincity06 u/thx4coming2mytedtalk u/charleskingprod u/joyride-vt

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AzureFenririnfinity, ape believe ๐Ÿฆ๐Ÿš€๐ŸŒŒ๐ŸŒ โœจโ€ข
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AzureFenririnfinity, ape believe ๐Ÿฆ๐Ÿš€๐ŸŒŒ๐ŸŒ โœจโ€ข
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Exact_Banana6492๐ŸŒ’Moonwalker๐ŸŒ’โ€ข

Huge if big.

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tinytankhankโ€ข

I will say it again. I hope this catches on like wildfire. I hope they throw awards at this to bring visibility. All I have is an upvote Ape, and my support.

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HaxxenPirat๐ŸŽฎ Power to the Players ๐Ÿ›‘โ€ข

Yessir! But watch this get downvoted into oblivion, little pp SHFs are scared af ๐Ÿ’ฆ

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krissco๐Ÿ› GMEmatode Trader ๐Ÿ› | ๐Ÿ’ป ComputerShared ๐Ÿฆโ€ข

u/stopfuckingwithme account 733xx here.

Congrats OP and way to go paving the way for IRAs.

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krissco๐Ÿ› GMEmatode Trader ๐Ÿ› | ๐Ÿ’ป ComputerShared ๐Ÿฆโ€ข

OP. That barcode has your full account number. Suggest redaction.

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youniversawmeOP๐Ÿฆ Buckle Up ๐Ÿš€โ€ข

Hey thanks! how do I do that? Delete & repost?

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krissco๐Ÿ› GMEmatode Trader ๐Ÿ› | ๐Ÿ’ป ComputerShared ๐Ÿฆโ€ข

You might have to. If you can edit and replace just the image that would work too.

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youniversawmeOP๐Ÿฆ Buckle Up ๐Ÿš€โ€ข

Got it. I think. I have no idea what I'm doing here. thanks for watching out for a fellow ape!

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krissco๐Ÿ› GMEmatode Trader ๐Ÿ› | ๐Ÿ’ป ComputerShared ๐Ÿฆโ€ข

Looks like you got it! Happy to help!

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youniversawmeOP๐Ÿฆ Buckle Up ๐Ÿš€โ€ข

!DRSBOT:138!

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Roid_Rage_Smurf๐Ÿค– Schrรถdinger Bot ๐Ÿค–โ€ข

##DRSBOT 4.65 Reply: UTC->2021-10-30 04:18:5

๐ŸŽฐYOU WIN A VISIT!

Not sayin 138 is wrong...

Just that you have been randomly selected

for a second set of human eyes.

*I have sent a message to the WITNESSES to check

this submission/addition with a link to this thread.*

You have shares logged from the following threads:

โœ…[Sprstnk]68 Shares[Reddit Link:] (https://redd.it/qexxga)
โœ…[Sprstnk]46 Shares[Reddit Link:] (https://redd.it/qe6wfu)

Current Approved Witnesses:

Roid_Rage_Smurf

TheRealMichaelScoot

Rockets2TheMoon

Knightsbridge_1896

SimpleJack2021

phillythebeaut

Beep Boop. I could be a bot. Born on 10/11/2021. Fur Realz
in v420.X I became self-aware...๐Ÿš€MOAR DRSBOT:๐Ÿš€
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Roid_Rage_Smurf๐Ÿค– Schrรถdinger Bot ๐Ÿค–โ€ข

You've got multiple posts, one of which also details IRA.

Whats the total DRS share number? Feed the bot the incremental amount to make the totals match.

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youniversawmeOP๐Ÿฆ Buckle Up ๐Ÿš€โ€ข

This one is in addition to the first two. Not sure if I should reset and submit total, but they all each have different account names and #s associated with them. More on the way!

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Roid_Rage_Smurf๐Ÿค– Schrรถdinger Bot ๐Ÿค–โ€ข

!DRSBOT:138!

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Roid_Rage_Smurf๐Ÿค– Schrรถdinger Bot ๐Ÿค–โ€ข

##DRSBOT 4.65 Reply: UTC->2021-10-30 12:25:3

โœ… 138 SHARES ADDED!

You have shares logged from the following threads:

โœ…[Sprstnk]68 Shares[Reddit Link:] (https://redd.it/qexxga)
โœ…[Sprstnk]46 Shares[Reddit Link:] (https://redd.it/qe6wfu)
โœ…[Sprstnk]138 Shares[Reddit Link:] (https://redd.it/qitry4)

Total[Sprstnk][GME][GMEJ]
Share Count:545,325438,56193,42613,338
Post Count:2,9742,46842185
Avg Shrs/Entry:183.36177.70221.91156.92
Avg #Entry/Ape:1.06861.07161.05251.0625
Median:42.0043.0040.0032.00
Mode:111001
STDEV:812.28635.141508.59341.21
Flagged Shares:49749700
X:5734728318
XX:1430118020842
XXX:86473011420
XXXX:10383155
XXXXX:4310
XXXXXX:0000

(Are those flagged shares yours? Use :HELP! to find out...)

To include your shares in the count:

  1. Find/edit your own successful DRS posts
  2. Post flair must be ๐Ÿ’ป Computershare
  3. Add comment with:

! DRSBOT:XXX ! (minus spaces) --> (XXX = number of shares)

  • DRSBOT only responds to OP or Witness
  • round fractional shares to whole numbers (sorry .X apes))
  • all share additions are cumulative

######! DRSBOT: COMMANDS (minus spaces):

:HELP! -->LIST ENTERED SHARES/AVAIL COMMANDS

:REMOVE! -->SET ONLY CURRENT POST TO ZERO

:RESET! --> SET ALL POSTS TO ZERO (START OVER)

:WITNESS! -->ALERT A WITNESS TO YOUR POST

:POETRY! --> SNAG 3 RANDOM DATA STREAM ENTRIES

:BUDDY! --> FINDS AN APE WITH MATCHING SHARE COUNTS

:DEMON! --> OPEN DRSBOT PORTALS WITH A DEMON CHANT

DRSBOT ONLY RESPONDS TO COMMANDS ON YOUR POST

BOT POETRY: {

I like this thought! DTCC is Weyland-Yutani .

Before you leave again I wanted to say ~ we see .

I'm here from all, let's try .

}

Beep Boop. I might be a bot. Born on 10/11/2021. Fur Realz
in v420.X I became self-aware...๐Ÿš€MOAR DRSBOT:๐Ÿš€
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1twowonder๐Ÿ’ป ComputerShared ๐Ÿฆโ€ข

Fantastic job! You are an exemplary Ape. ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

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Worth-Draft8909๐ŸŽฎ Power to the Players ๐Ÿ›‘โ€ข

Up you go ๐Ÿš€ drs them iras apes

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shayen7๐Ÿ’ป ComputerShared ๐Ÿฆโ€ข

Finally! Now we can register 10x as many shares! Take my free award

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OswaldGoodGuy๐Ÿ’ป ComputerShared ๐Ÿฆโ€ข

Let the floodgates open

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lawsondt๐Ÿ’ป ComputerShared ๐Ÿฆโ€ข

AWESOME

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Sh0w3n๐Ÿ’ŽDiamantenhรคnde๐Ÿ’Žโ€ข

I donโ€™t get why you arenโ€™t further up. This is like the invention of fire, it will light up our DRS speed

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youniversawmeOP๐Ÿฆ Buckle Up ๐Ÿš€โ€ข

Itโ€™s either getting buried or there truly arenโ€™t very many apes with IRAs. Iโ€™m just glad I can DRS mine. I also think many apes from January like myself are suspect of Apex as custodian, and I totally get that. Yes they had a hand in shutting off the buy but Iโ€™m not sure how much they can really affect me just hodling my shares, especially now that they are DRS.

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Thx4Coming2MyTedTalk๐Ÿฆ๐ŸฆGorilla Warfare๐Ÿฆ๐Ÿฆ๐Ÿฆโ€ข

Apes probably have a full float in IRA alone. This could be huge!

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d2dtk๐Ÿ’ป ComputerShared ๐Ÿฆโ€ข

Good read and a lot of information

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KingMustardRaceNaked โœ… Short โœ… Covered in Mayo โœ… ๐Ÿฆ Voted โœ…โ€ข

!Mods please pin this shit ahhhh

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Beneon83Put the fucking kettle on.โ€ข
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CullenaryArtist๐ŸŽฎ Power to the Players ๐Ÿ›‘โ€ข

Spread the word!

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Good_Butterscotch_69โ€ข

Awesome Op!

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boiseairguard๐Ÿ’ป ComputerShared ๐Ÿฆโ€ข

Good work dude! Hoping that apes get their IRAs DRSd!

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EnnWhyy๐Ÿ’ป ComputerShared ๐Ÿฆโ€ข

##IRA DRS is the true โ™พ๐ŸŠโ€โ™‚๏ธ

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Zen09Dโ€ข

This is humongous...

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