UnNetHack 4.0.0 released – “Here Be Dragons”
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unnethack.wordpress.comPosted Apr 4, 2012, 1:54 PM UTC
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unnethack.wordpress.comNorton Sonar flipped out and said the graphical version (UnNethackW) is a virus. I've scanned it with Ad-Aware and Malware Antibytes and didn't get anything. So I think it's just a false-positive.
I'm pretty sure it's safe. Anyone have the same problem or want to weigh in?
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Norton sucks.
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Wow, you got some downvotes there. D: I'll give ya and upvote.
Norton likes to flip out a lot. So I recommend another virus scanner.
There are a lot of free and better alternatives. Microsoft Security Essentials(MSE) is great. Uses little resources and doesn't assault and accuse every file on your computer. Though you need an Authentic windows to get it. Not pointing fingers here, just saying.
AVG and Avast are both good anti virus programs. They're a bit of a resource hog, but nowhere near as bad as Norton. They also give false positives too, but again, no where near as bad as Norton.
Ad-aware isn't bad, but AVG, Avast, and MSE are better alternatives. Though I haven't used Ad-aware in a year or two, so I don't know how it is now.
Malware Antibytes is a good one, but you're gonna want MSE, AVG, or Avast to go with it.
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I deserve all the downvotes I get for mentioning Norton. It came on the computer and I just haven't got around to upgrading to something better yet. Thanks for reminding me, bro-guelike.
Norton is occasionally right about something, so I just figured it was worth mentioning.
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Still, downvotes just for mentioning Norton? It's not like you were advertising it.
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By more challenges does that mean it's just randomly harder or is it a balanced challenge? I'd love to be into an actively developed nethack but the game doesn't need to be randomly harder (for n00bs like me)
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If by "randomly harder" you mean something like how Slash'Em is harder than Vanilla, then by all means, no, UnNetHack is not like that.
It's not a design goal to make UnNetHack directly harder than Vanilla. But of course, it might indirectly get harder because of other changes. But it also might get easier in parts. :-)
Take for example "Elbereth". You got ctrl-e for easy spamming of it and it works completely the same for the early game.game) but quest nemesis no longer respect it. OTOH Minotaurs DO respect it now in UnNetHack.
It's give and take. It also depends on your style of play. If you can only ascend with lots of wishes, you will find it more difficult (even though wishless is considered one of the easier conducts) as there are fewer wishes in UnNetHack.
So "not randomly harder" and if you try it and find something unreasonably hard or unfair, shout, it might get changed. That's the risk with stuff in development. It changes. :-)
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This is great news, I am an unrepentant unnethack nut.
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It's just a very few years ago that those would have been fighting words in many roguelike circles. Hell, on r.g.r.n. they might still be.
Geeks can be weird sometimes...
Well, I believe that NetHack is still in development. The DevTeam has no reason to lie to us about it.
But if development only happens in an ivory tower, is there really any development done at all?
My answer to this conundrum is that de facto there is no development and therefore there is UnNetHack.
They might prove me wrong at some date that probably lies way into the future but I really don't expect that to happen.
BTW, you haven't been to RGRN lately, otherwise you would have seen this years April Fools joke which has drawn mostly silence even though it is much more controversial than just doubting NetHack's development state.
You are correct, I have not been there in a couple years -- the last time I was lurking for a while there was this really weird kookotroll that just made the whole group annoying to read. :D
Good to hear the gang there has become more laid-back of late.
Are you the game's author? Or part of its devteam?
Whatever happened to SporkHack?
signed, someone who has never made it past minetown, or maybe Sokoban
I'm not sure if most of RGRN have become more laid-back or just disillusioned. Clinging to the notion of an imaginary $NEXT_VERSION, even though there most probably won't be one from the DevTeam but still not recognizing other forks as valid continuations from Vanilla (not all, but some of the regulars).
Yes, I'm the author of UnNetHack. But I'm not part of the nethack4 devteam, at least not directly (there is a constant stream of code going from and to the various developed variants). I'm not even sure if more than ais523 is currently part of that devteam. The author of NitroHack is mentioned as ais523's new fork is a merger of his old fork AceHack and NitroHack, I don't know what daniel_t is going to do now (I haven't seen him online for a month).
SporkHack is currently on hold, Derek got a heavy dose of non C programming on his day job and he sayd that interferes with his ability to write decent C code.
How 'bout that?