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.5c € 9-men STT, KQ All-in. Was that right?

Hi! That's my first hand analysis request, so I hope I don't screw everything up. (Also, english is not my main tongue, forgive me).

It's a 50 cent € 9-men Sit 'n' Go on Pokerstars. 6 left. It's a pretty tight game, and the guy who eventually kicked me out was pretty aggressive in the last couple of hands.

I raised consistently pre-flop with KQ. Everybody fold 'till SB who goes all-in. I push all-in too and, well... here's the hand:

Poker Stars €0.41+€0.09 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t75/t150 Blinds - 6 players
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SB: t3515 23.43 BBs
BB: t2815 18.77 BBs
UTG: t3430 22.87 BBs
MP: t1165 7.77 BBs
Hero (CO): t1340 8.93 BBs
BTN: t1235 8.23 BBs

Pre Flop: (t225) Hero is CO with Q K
2 folds, Hero raises to t450, 1 fold, SB raises to t3515 all in, 1 fold, Hero calls t890 all in

Flop: (t2830) A 2 4 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: (t2830) 6 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t2830) T (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: t2830
SB shows J A (a pair of Aces)
Hero shows Q K (high card Ace)
SB wins t2830

Was it correct to play the way I played? Any advice?

Posted Apr 5, 2012, 4:58 PM UTC

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hesbunky•

Just shove rather than raise to 450 but yes get in in pre

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[deleted]•

You should be shoving anyway considering that you have only a little less than 10 bb (big blind ) left. a good rule of thumb is that at about 13 bb you go into push or fold mode.

here with your big raise (at blinds starting 25/50 you should consider starting stealing smaller with 2.5x and less at least from late position) and the blinds you are pretty much comitted and have a pretty solid hand. again though you wouldn't have to question yourself there if you just have moved all in.

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BrianBoykoFavorite Game: Spread Limit Razzdugi•

You've got 8.93 BB. Shove pre if you intend to play. It might get SB to fold his JA, meaning you steal the blinds, something you need to do to stay alive.

I don't think you can fold KQo here, but again, shove, don't raise.

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tadpolelord•

I agree, except no competent player is ever folding AJ to an 8bb shove.

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zahlman•

They may fold some aces and low pairs, though, which are ahead of KQ.

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tadpolelord•

They are definitely going to fold things like A8- some of the time of course, but AJ? Really? I don't think bad players are folding here EVER and I don't think good players are folding here more than 5% of the time.

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zahlman•

Certainly not AJ. I don't know why you'd think I figure otherwise.

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BrianBoykoFavorite Game: Spread Limit Razzdugi•

The existence of non-competent players in the universe makes the move +EV.

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zahlman•

You should just shove the money in in the first place. On these tiny stacks, you're not getting away from your hand preflop anyway. It's just bad luck that one of the three people behind you has a huge hand.

Edit: Mathematically speaking it is correct to shove hands a fair bit worse than this, too, assuming the payouts are 50%/30%/20% for top three. The calculated unexploitable range under ICM is {22+ A2s+ A9o+ K7s+ KTo+ Q8s+ QTo+ J8s+ T8s+ 98s}, almost a quarter of hands.

But the key to winning 9-seat STT SNGs like this, imo, is not being one of the short stacks when you get to 6-handed with high blinds. ;)

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_martindOP•

But the key to winning 9-seat STT SNGs like this, imo, is not being one of the short stacks when you get to 6-handed with high blinds. ;)

I'll review my other hands looking for mistakes, but... any tips to archieve this? ;)

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ribgriller•

good always shove buddy

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deadstraddl3•

As played this is fine.

I don't think it makes a difference with this hand, but in general with your stack size I would open shove here with 100% of the range you wish to play, reason being that if this guy has A9 or something he wont have a chance to think you might fold if he shoves, getting rid of a few of the hands you're still losing slightly to. You're kind of forced to play this hand in this position but If you don't want to raise/call it off open folding is excusable I guess, but not optimal (I would never be folding this hand here).

When called I don't think you're ever ahead often other than mayyybe KJ QJ, but you arent very far behind very often either 50/50 60/40 mostly. However, you have so much fold equity in the CO its very worth shoving this spot.

Conclusion: this hand plays itself, I dont think you did anything wrong other than your bet size preflop. The amount of times you steal the blinds here outweighs the amount of times the blinds wake up with a hand by far.

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