Martin Wagner on the Atheist Experience

There was a caller on the atheist experience who saw the world as a terrible place if god wasn't in it. Saying you would have to be an evil person to want to have kids in this horrible world. Martin Wagner went on to say this.

"We can be good and nice and decent and kind to one another and help each other out when someone's life is not going well or someone has a horrible disease. That's why we have doctors and that's why we have people who fund charities to help people who can't pay medical bills. That's why he have all of these things we do for one another to help each other out. We can be that way, as people, on our own. we don't need a divine commandment for it, we don't need to say, well here's one half our holy book that has a list of rules, but the second half has a different list of rules which are nicer. None of that needs to be referenced anymore because we've got each other and we are all we need. And that is why it's worth it. And that's why this world doesn't have to be the horrible place you think it is because once you get rid of that superstition and once you get rid of those old rules you don't have that hanging over your life anymore and you can see people as people."