Oh we want total abolition
Posted Mar 6, 2022, 10:01 PM UTC
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Who will produce your xboxes then?
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Anarchism is when no video game
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Anarchism is when kids can’t say they fucked your mom last night.
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I'd rather have no xbox than no planet to play it on or no home to keep it in or a job which lets me buy the xbox but then affords me no time to play it.
Idk I don't really play video games though.
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Work =/= all labour
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who will labour on a convayor belt in a factory?
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If people want the things this job would provide there would be people to do it. Especially when you consider the fact that once all unnecessary jobs are obsolete there would be much less work to go around
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What things do you mean? Those that money can buy?
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You really think that there aren’t brilliant programmers all over the world who would love nothing more than to have all of their needs met so that they could spend all day developing the games they want to play on the types of consoles they want to play them on? An end to Capitalism doesn’t mean an end to technology and fun. In fact I think that most of us here think that technology would likely greatly improve, and that more people would actually have access to cool new technology, if it wasn’t all done under capitalism. This is definitely a “What about my roads” argument, and it’s honestly super short sighted.
Edit: Typos
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How will you make sure the infrastructure keeps running? Sewage gets cleaned out? I am not going near those places if I'd be paid a lot. Do you expect someone to clean shit for the game of it? This is a good old communism argument. That there'd be a super-motivated granny to do it feeling ashamed not to otherwise.
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I mean I would hope that nobody is forcing their granny to clean shit. But yeah I do think that people will volunteer to keep all that shit running. Nobody is against “working”. Nobody is saying that we want to just sit around and wallow in our filth all day. We are saying that we don’t want to perform those jobs for rich folks who are profiting off of our labor while we struggle to make ends meet. I firmly believe that given the chance, the world can continue on running, but better, if we didn’t have to perform labor under the threat of starvation and homelessness. Community is a strong thing, and we’d absolutely need to rely on communities working together to make it work, but I think that’s achievable.
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You'd have longer waiting times on most of the things you expect done immediately nowadays. Are you willing to face such a defficit in your desires being met? Parcels taking months to arrive, no concrete schedule on any transport, delivering oil to refinaries? There are 1% maybe who would do it for the fun of it from the currently employed. All i ever heard from warehouse workers is that none of them would do their job if not paid for it. Even my electrician supervisor, who seems to dig his gig, says he wouldn't do it if not for the money. Even ppl who are good at what they do wouldn't do it. You assume everyone would find their purpose if not for the money. How would new homes be built and housing allocated? Would anyone produce contraceptives for the love of depopulation?
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"Nobody is against “working”."
False, I am opposed to work! Why are you trying to launder the work by putting quotes in it? Labor and work are alienation.
"Nobody is saying that we want to just sit around and wallow in our filth all day."
Why not ? Being forced to stand and move around in filth is no better.You can always say that your only goal is not to do his works for rich people but as far as I'm concerned I don't want to do his works no matter why and for whom.
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Ahhh such good abolition posting