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OnlyIce

is litter the perfect response to necuc?

my friends are woke enough to support animal rights ideologically but defeatist enough to support animal enslavement in practice, because their boycotting the industry wouldnt put a stop to it.

but they dont litter (directly), and litter is going to keep happening despite their boycott of the practice. seems like, to be consistent, they would either litter when its convenient, or, you know, go vegan.

do yall see any obvious holes in this analogy? i only thought of it after i smoked a bowl so i wanna be sure its sound before i bring it up to them.

Posted Mar 19, 2022, 7:57 PM UTC

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radiantplanet•

Could also point to boycotting nestle, or the companies still operating in Russia now. Or ask them if they think all consumption is equally unethical. Animal agriculture is easily identified and avoidable in the modern world, and boycotting it decreases demand and production

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jillstr•

It's a sound enough counterargument. They might hear "litter" and then filter it into only being about environmental effects though. But idk, you have to tackle necuc from every possible angle and eventually one of the arguments will stick.

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okseriouslyidk•

(Whats “Necuc” mean?)

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Simple-Cockroach5542•

“No ethical consumption under capitalism”

Basically an excuse for “socialists” to participate in unethical behaviors that don’t align with their political end goals

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okseriouslyidk•

Gotcha, I know the phrase but had never seen the abbreviation, thank you!!

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jillstr•

That was the first time i had seen the abbreviation myself, lol. Saves a lot of typing

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TemporaryTelevision6•

Throw some trash on the ground next time you're with them, when they ask wtf you're doing just explain that it doesn't matter since other people litter too.

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Redditplsstop•

Throw some litter when you're with them and tell them it wouldn't make a difference if you didn't litter. Or put paper in the plastic recycle.

Justify it with carnist arguments. Not everybody in the world can stop littering, in some places in India there's no trashcans.

It won't make a difference if I don't litter.

It's my personal choice to litter.

I only litter things that will break down in 50 years.

Even seagull litter. They pull stuff out of the trashcans all the time, are you gonna stop them too?

The cooperations should've made packaging that breaks down faster.

Not everybody can avoid littering. I have a friend who has trouble walking she must litter because she can't always walk to the trashcan.

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