Speeding Motorcycle on Crowchild (sorry for audio, still learning video editing)
Posted Apr 3, 2022, 3:36 AM UTC
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Lmao a guy in a Calgary motorcycle Facebook group I’m in posted today saying he got busted doing 220. I think I found him…
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I can't even imagine 220. How do you even react to anything? Lol
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Splatactualry.
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Carefully
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If you go fast enough times, you get used to it. It's stupid to do it in public. But if you do, you're thinking for everyone on the road. No one is expecting you to be traveling that fast. As a rider you have to be super alert to subtle changes in car trajectories. Pedestrian traffic is another variable. Keep in mind you're going to pass any spot you're observing in a few seconds. So everything is happening and it's gone, you're onto the next few seconds. An experienced rider can handle all that input and deal with it. Unfortunately, I suspect most riders going super fast in traffic are not very experienced. Yes, it's stupid to do in traffic. Yes your risk of death and potentially injuring or killing others is very high. But going fast doesn't make you some sort of demon spawn. Picking the right place to go fast.. well, it can be fun. Deerfoot traffic is not the right place.
And yeah you're going to dump on me for not bashing the person going that fast. You'll demonize me because it makes you feel some sort of moral superiority. I don't care. To me it demonstrates an ignorance about the actual capabilities of modern vehicles and motorcycles in general. Our driver/rider training is the issue at hand. People have minimal training, given the keys to a vehicle and then never tested again. Motorcyclists generally are looking to improve their skills so they have the right mindset. Car drivers just look to survive the next trip. The acceptance of the lack of training and retesting is a social failing.
I have 45 years of riding faster than traffic. I have too many hours above 200 kph to count. Zero collisions and 1 speeding ticket (20kph over) in the last 20 years. The difference between me and some idiot doing 220 on Deerfoot is knowing where one can speed (and by how much) or not. On Deerfoot, in traffic... Bad decisions are happening there. Bring on the crazy-ass fines and remove the rider from the road.
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you don't deserve the downvotes, but that's a legit "unpopular opinion"
(said as someone likeminded)
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most people don't give a shite if a moto rider like this splats, but do care about other people they may selfishly injure or kill while doing it. Just stupid.
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But what if they don't kill or injure anyone? What if... nothing happens.
I enjoy the vilification of the rider though. You're suggesting the fast rider has no thought or empathy for others on the roads. That way it gives you the righteousness to toss some hate towards them. Learn to let it go. There's nothing you can do about it.
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Aaaggghh... Well I have to agree. People do buy fast bikes to go fast, and like you mentioned it's picking where to go fast and doing it on deerfoot/Crowchild (where already terrible drivers in cars exist) is not safe at all.
But the chances this guy crashes from his own fault and let's say, have his bike slide and jump a median/ hit someone else's car is just too great. People wanna look cool doing it but no one actually cares, we don't see you and the thrill is only for yourself and no one else. It's reckless.
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I tell you one thing If I see you (or anyone else driving that way) get into an accident and you need help....
I'm going to continue on my merry way while you die by the side of the road.
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Yes your risk of death and potentially injuring or killing others is very high. But going fast doesn't make you some sort of demon spawn.
Fuck you. Yes, yes it does make you demon spawn and worse.
Stop justifying anything about it. Should be a permanent ban on the ---privilege--- it is to commute on public roadways.
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wow. I think I'll phone my mom and tell her the news.
Such hate. Where does it come from? Surely you keep that under control when you're on the road. Otherwise you seem to be a bit of ticking time bomb behind the wheel.
I'd be totally fine with tougher enforced traffic laws. The problem isn't the person going fast. The problem is automobile drivers that are poorly trained. If north american auto/truck drivers had retesting every 3-5 years or so, most would fail. Because of the incompetence of the average auto driver, speeds have to be constantly reduced and any deviation from the societal norm of slowest-common-denominator is chastised. The biggest problem with going fast is unpredictable automobile drivers.
Speeding is easy to pick on. The delta is easily quantified with radar guns. Big numbers make for big headlines. The result is unrealistic limits reduced again and again to accommodate untrained, incompetent automobile drivers. I suspect you'd be ok with 60kph limits on 4 lane meridianed street. It's for the children!
I've had this discussion hundreds of times. I know there is no changing your mind. If anything you're now even more incensed that I would somehow purposely disobey speed limits that are set for political (municipal), not safety reasons. I pick my spots to speed. Deerfoot isn't one of them.
Don't assume that just because the idiot on the bike is going fast that something bad is going to happen. There's lots of other day-to-day incompetence in automobiles causing way more accidents than a fast motorcycle rider every day out there.
Demon Spawn. cool :) It's been a couple years since I've been called that. Your comments mean nothing to me. Some hate, some name calling, a proposed nasty ultimatum. Yawn.
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Telling me how I'm going to react to you before I've even done so is certainly a take.
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It's pretty simple really. I know you have no idea how fast I'm really travelling. You check your mirrors and there's a dot of a bike headlight. When you check again, it's zipping by on the left hand side.
From the riders point of view, they've been watching you for the last say... 15 - 30 seconds. Within a couple seconds you can observe and determine your competence. Are you weaving around the lane, is your head swiveling checking mirrors or is it looking straight ahead (either is fine), are you looking at your phone, are you speeding up/ slowing down, signaling can't be trusted. All this is going on. Then repeat this sort of decision pattern recognition a thousand times a day. You get so you can reliably predict the expected pattern the automobile driver is going to maintain. Doing it wrong means you can will harm yourself.
Yeah deviations from the pattern suck. But if you've ridden around Calgary lately, you take your life in your hands every ride. I've taught defensive riding for years. When I'm out riding around town, I regularly get cut off or squeezed or somehow surprised by the incompetence of automobile drivers. So, reading and predicting what drivers are going to do is standard survival tactic.
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Bang on. It's not an argument for it being right or wrong, but a lot of folks don't know what a high performance machine feels like. A competent machine paired with a skilled operator can safely do some things that would make a lot of people squirm.
Granted, crowchild or other city streets are not the place, especially in the middle of the day.
As a life long motorcyclist who started off entirely on the wrong machine, I really think we need to revamp our licensing. At the very least when looking at cars the barrier of entry to truly high performance is a bit greater than that of bikes. The list of high performance cars for $30k is not that large, but you can grab one of, what, four or five different 200+ HP motorcycles for that money.
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Dead man riding!
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Future donor
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There won't be much left of him to donate.
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I like calling them "hamburger"
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Someone deserves to lose both their license and their motorcycle, permanently.
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These guys die every year. Fun while it lasts though.
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This was me today on my bike. https://youtu.be/qSZUaCNX_ZA
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I'm giving you the upvote I feel you deserve for making me laugh
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Your comments never disappoint.
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The ol' flip up license plate too! He did have his headlights on so there's that...
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„˙˙˙ʇɐɥʇ s,ǝɹǝɥʇ os uo sʇɥƃılpɐǝɥ sıɥ ǝʌɐɥ pıp ǝH ¡ooʇ ǝʇɐld ǝsuǝɔıl dn dılɟ ,lo ǝɥ⊥„
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I almost smoked one on Thursday when he came flying up the lane I was merging into on Deerfoot. I noticed him coming just in time and rode the shoulder while he flew by me at close to the same speed.
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There was a guy doing exactly this on Deerfoot yesterday but going so much faster. I'm sure it was the same dude.
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Death Race 2022
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Meat Crayon race 2022
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Right into the merge from the ramp too. SMH
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'tis the season unfortunately
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Haven't heard Blackmill in such a long time
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Looks like no plate on the bike
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hope he signed the organ donor card
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I swear I saw the same asshat a few weeks back, also on Crowchild north of the stadium.
Aside: that looks much higher than 23 KM/H faster than you, OP.
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Could be. I basically started timing from about where his front wheel got to my back bumper, and stopped when it reached my front bumper, which I figured was around 0.75 seconds. My car is about 4.74m long, so 6.32m/s, or 22.7km/h. Of course a difference of a few tenths of a second can change that drastically, especially comparing between two pieces of video footage.
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Photo radar would never result in a court date
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Must of been a dream.
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Based on timing the video footage for how quickly he passed my car, I figure he was going 23km/h faster than me, so about 105km/h
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The speed isn't even what to get upset about here, people do in excess of 120 on crowchild everyday, mainly early morning commuters coming from Cochrane to work in Calgary.
The weaving is what is dangerous.
I routinely drive the full length of crowchild towing a 24ft trailer for work and doing 90 in the right lane, I still get passed as if I'm standing still.
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Good thing that's not how photo radar works.
No face, no case.
My 290 on Stoney resulted in a $525 ticket mailed to my address, that's it.
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I don't like you. This was the nicest thing I could think to say...
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Ok.
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How?? My 132 in an 80 zone got a pink mandatory court appearance ticket mailed to me.
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Nice
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He was a great guy full of life, would give the shirt off his back!!
Lol I came here to say that. Why did god take him so early? The good die young :(