Valarin names of the Two Lamps?

It is widely™ known that the Valarin names for the Two Trees Telperion and Laurelin were Ibrīniðilpathānezel and Tulukhedelgorūs respectively. Do we know enough about the Valarin language to determine the lamps' names?

Posted Apr 16, 2022, 1:18 AM UTC

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AtharaphelunIngolmo•

The only known names of the Two Lamps are in Quenya alone. Tolkien never coined any names for the Two Lamps in Valarin.

The Two Lamps are Illuin and Ormal, and each was held up by the great pillars of Helcar and Ringil, respectively.

Valarin does not have the required words to properly render Illuin ('All-Blue') and Ormal ('High-Gold') into Valarin.

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AtharaphelunIngolmo•

Those are the Valarin names of the Two Trees, not the Two Lamps. Even OP states this in the post.

Tolkien never coined any Valarin names for the Two Lamps.

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Lupe-Dy-Cazaril•

Widely known?

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stefan92293•

That's why it's trademarked 😉

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HistoryofArda•

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RotaVitae•

I believe this is the entirety of the Valarin vocabulary compiled by the books. Anything beyond this isn't known. Valarin is one of if not the least expanded Tolkien language.

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kellersab•

Laurelin means Song of Gold, Telperion wreath of Silver or Silver first

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