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TopMali

What does Teddy want?

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He just told his superior that the war is ending so clearly Nicaragua is no longer a priority.

He got $73M + whatever profits he could pocket, he can do anything he wants, open a trust fund for his kid, buy a palace on an island wtv but this weirdo wants to grease the palms of his CIA handler for what? A pat on the head and his job back as an empty suit? Is he mentally ill?

The show says over and over that this guy does the things he does for patriotism so I expect them to subvert that like Breaking Bad did so what does Teddy really want? He doesn’t care about living lavish, he doesn’t want familial validation, he’s a deadbeat dad that left his brother to die and his own father hates him and now the show is telling us that he doesn’t really care about Nicaragua. Now what’s left?

Posted Apr 22, 2022, 1:02 AM UTC

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dragonfuitjones•

He probably wants his job back since he’s not officially CIA anymore

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TopMaliOP•

But why? He started off as a desk job and now he’s got more money that he knows what to do with, why work again?

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[deleted]•

I think he likes the thrill of the game. He doesn't care about anyone else or even his country. That's just bull shit talk. He's an adrenaline junkie who loves the control and manipulation he can get from this sort of work. I'm thinking he wants CIA hook him up with another gig.

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dragonfuitjones•

That’s the patriotism part. My guess is he wants to be seen as a hero to his country

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mikehicks83•

You answered why in your OP. This is just who he is. He wants to be back official on the State Depts.(or however it fell at the time) payroll.

His whole identity is CIA. Seems like just being a “contractor” isn’t enough. He wants all that comes with being a full fledged field operative.

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Slim_James_•

It's not hard to figure out - what Teddy wants is to be a soldier of American Imperialism. He really believes in the Cold War line of bullshit that the US is locked in a clash of civilizations with the communists for the fate of the world. That's why we've never seen him skim any of the $73M; that's why when he killed Grady back at the beginning of the season he said he was doing it because Grady was "bad at his job". The guy believes in "the mission".

The war in Nicaragua may be ending but, as Teddy himself said, there's always another war going on somewhere. You're expecting some kind of subversion, but I don't think there is one coming.

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[deleted]•

I don't think he's an idealist patriot. I think he's some narcissist who gets off being in charge and fucking over people's lives when he gets the chance. Think about it. What was the point of stealing all Franklin's money?

Problem is ..... Iran-Contra drops in 86 so we're not too far away from that bombshell sinking the CIA's funding of the Contras in Nicaragua. So Teddy doesn't have much time left.

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RedMangabey•

I also don't believe he is doing this mainly because of patriotism. Otherwise he would've just moved to the operation in Iran or someplace else. I think this specific operation is the only thing he has left. He wants to be in charge and control it like it is his own creation and his only purpose in life.

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Slim_James_•

I don’t think being an idealistic patriot & narcissistic control freak aren’t mutually exclusive. Think of the real-life examples: Richard Nixon, Allan & Foster Dulles (a.k.a. the original heads of the CIA), Winston Churchill. You could make a pretty substantial list.

From watching the scene, I thought the point of taking Franklin’s money was because Teddy felt he could use that money better (for the mission) & make himself look good to his bosses. Why wouldn’t he seize that money? It’s not like he cares about Franklin as a person, and if they’re not working together anymore Teddy doesn’t care about staying on Franklin’s good side.

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[deleted]•

My understanding of idealist patriot at Teddy's level is someone willing to die for a country or cause not someone who does things out of self-interest alone and I don't see Teddy as a patriot, at least not at this point in the story.

Teddy stole the money long before he and Franklin had a falling out. It's believable that he stole it to keep funding the project (remember he wanted to increase his arms order by 3X).

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Slim_James_•

That’s definitely valid reasoning. For me, Teddy fits the definition because I don’t think any kind of self-sacrifice is required to be a “patriot”. A person just needs to believe in the primacy of their own nation above others - which I’m convinced Teddy does.

This is all speculation but I think if Teddy was primarily motivated by self-interest, he’d be a lot more corrupt.

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Ty1an•

he doesn’t. he never really did. that was bullshit from the beginning just like franklin’s “help the black community” talk was bullshit. he’s just a junkie for the manipulation and control he gets from being in that position. he basically went through what walter white went through on breaking bad

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mikehicks83•

Yep! Lol nailed it simply with American Imperialism. He’s that soldier!

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YDHmanC1•

I think he just wants purpose 🤷🏿‍♂️

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PowerDiesel23•

The guy he was talking to about the $73M made it seem like all or most of that money is going to the CIA.

I really don't know what Teddy wants, I guess he wants to finish off funding the war, get his recognition from the CIA and maybe reunite with his family or start a new one. Seems like he is almost certainly gonna be killed off in season 6, between him and Louie....they both have the fans of the show begging for something terrible to happen to them. It's gonna be an all out war between Franklin with help from Kane's crew and the KGB, Louie and Teddy.

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Accurate_Pea729•

These CIA guys like to swing they dick around and come back to the office like a God amongst normal people. That American glory , I personally think Teddy really does this for his country and all that glory but he’s just going to die. CIA always tries to cover up their loose ends , kill whoever

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NELA730•

He wants the power of knowing he destroyed the entire black middle class in Los Angeles

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yungusainbolt•

Dawg that was all Franklin. Teddy was working with avi directly months before he connected with Franklin he never cared how the money was being made he just wanted the money

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TopMaliOP•

Yeo if putting down the black community was the goal the whole time that’d be dope. There was even hints of racism from him early this season

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browardbaby51•

where im tryna see that

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TopMaliOP•

In one of the first conversations between them this season when Teddy comes back, Franklin talks to Teddy about the heat on him and Teddy says something along the lines of “But you’re selling to black people it’s not like anyone cares” and Franklin just glares at him quietly

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hiivemind•

I don’t think that was him being racist per se, moreso him just explaining the situation to Franklin. It was true, no one cared that it was black communities being affected. Teddy’s aware of how black people are perceived in America.

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yungusainbolt•

And the only reason he started working with Franklin was because Avi got arrested

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isreallyreal•

His brother died, his dad hates him, family gone, all he has left is the thrill of the game.

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Nguyening666•

Teddy bout to get clapped don’t think to much

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Unkwn202•

Yeah I think he dies too, it’ll be by kanes crew or some shit, kane did send the hit that shot him before and oso is out of the picture he vulnerable.

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MelodicWorking9234•

He is just infatuated with the operation he built from the ground up

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Est-Tech79•

Teddy is a true believer. He’s not keeping any money. He didn’t even have to tell his handler he had it. But he did.

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