Can we move all political discussion to r/TexasPolitics?

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Posted May 7, 2022, 6:15 PM UTC · locked

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Aastevens•

The choice to not be political is a privilege of only those empowered by the status quo.

Edit to add: it is precisely this inaction that has allowed despotic tyrants to strangle the livelihood of our great state.

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Cecil900•

Imagine being able to consider people being upset at the most significant rollback of rights in this country in most of our lives “political noise”.

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Lmao yeah Roe V. Wade, not the patriot act, the NDAA, the creation of the DHS, mass surveillance programs, targeting of civilians and activists based on political beliefs, race, nationality, and religion. None of that compares? Give me a break. Everyone ignores politics until it effects them personally

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Cecil900•

Yeah dude. Those are all terrible but don’t effect the day to day lives in nearly as concrete a way to huge swaths of the country as overturning Roe would. We also haven’t even talked about the other implications overturning Roe has at is basically a redefining of what the 14th amendment means, and that could have massive implications in other areas where SCOTUS used similar reasonings in the past.

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kyle_irl•

A lot of people underestimate how much the 4th, 5th, 9th, and 14th Amendments impact their daily lives and how entangled all of these are in the Roe V Wade ruling.

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TheMulefromMoscow•

I guess I've not been paying attention. What rights have been rolled-back or taken away?

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Cecil900•

Well it hasn’t gone into effect yet, but due to the SCOTUS leak we basically know they intend to overturn Roe v Wade this summer. Which Texas is one of many states that have a trigger law which automatically criminalizes abortion as Roe is overturned.

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TheMulefromMoscow•

Ahh, so the right hasn't been taken away, per se, just the location in which one can exercise the right has been limited to certain areas.

Pro-choice, all the way.

Do you think maybe this is an end-around by the "powers that be" to end liberal migrations to less-costly, conversative states or to force more liberal-minded folks to move from those states....with the overall goal of keeping red states red?

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CouchcarrotStatus•

At least TX fought the vaccine mandate against federal. They pick and choose which civil liberties can be violated.

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TheMulefromMoscow•

Exactly. Texas fights against one medical treatment, while making it illegal to receive another.

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jomm69•

Exactly this^ if the sub is dominated by political discussion it is because there is a large number of texans with important political interests that are at stake right now.

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jomm69•

I am not the one moving to make a change to the status quo of the sub and thus, the burden of proof does not lie with me

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HLAF4rt•

How would a random user of a subreddit be in a position to know that information?

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AfterUnderstanding21OP•

Or a few people/bots are constantly spamming? This sub ain’t no university discussion panel. I think most folks just want to read Reddit on the toilet in peace without the spammers ruining everything.

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JJ4prez•

Not at all a couple of people and bots. I don't know if you noticed, but politics, religion and money are a big topic of discussion between many folks of all different backgrounds.

Edit: especially on the internet where people have no consequences of their words.

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AfterUnderstanding21OP•

Politics in particular seem to devolve into a sporting event that just creates a bunch of hurt feelings and I don't think the political discussion on this sub is purely organic, especially due to this being an online forum.

The tone of the sub could be improved by removing the political threads and for folks who want to engage in politics, there is a special place just for that.

I'd like to see more discussion about West Texas sunsets, native American history, cool little known restaurants, red dirt music, hill country views, camping, and a million other topics Texas has to offer.

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barryandorlevon•

I don’t feel that political discussions ruin anything. Politics has a huge impact on my life every single day. If you’re lucky enough that they don’t impact your daily life then why not just scroll past them? You have the privilege of ignoring politics so… do that. Ignore politics and the posts about politics.

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powersv2•

We don’t really care what you want until our friends stop being put in jail.

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AfterUnderstanding21OP•

Who are your friends? Why are they being put in jail? Why do you think what I want isn't what you want?

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jomm69•

I can totally work with you if the issue is bots/spam though. A daily limit on flaired political posts from an account seems reasonable. Like you don’t need to post more than 3 political posts a day or something (comment all you want on your posts though). I think something that is a reasonable middle ground. But this is where I get my news about texas and I don’t like going to texas politics and I wouldnt go there anyways. News about texas should always have a place here and a lot ot news will be political.

Also: burden of proof is on you to show bot activity or a spam.

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PlanarVet•

I want to read about things that matter on the toilet and not in a dead subreddit. I've seen all the pictures of bluebonnets I want already. Go to r/texasbluebonnets if you want to see more of the usual crap.

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bubbles5810born and bred•

Maybe people would not be on the defense if they weren’t getting attacked by Ken Paxton, Dan Patrick, and Greg literally all the time.

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The-link-is-a-cock•

But you can only get a break when the attacks stop

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She_Walrus•

A very important point!

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AfterUnderstanding21OP•

Yeah this is kind of the point I'm trying to make.

Not trying to silence anyone, just want to encourage healthy discussion here and dial back the aggression and still have a political area for people who want to get into that.

I should have known better because some folks think I'm trying to sway the argument one way or another and that wasn't my intent.

Not sure any of this has been productive, but it seems a slim majority agree with me so far, based on upvotes/downvote ratio on the original post.

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jomm69•

OP you can filter political posts from your timeline. Are you aware of that? You don't have to see them and other people don't have to be told what to do! Isn't that great? Go to the sidebar

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barryandorlevon•

It does???

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The-link-is-a-cock•

Absolutely it would be awesome to be able to tune it out but there's unfortunately a lot of people who's lives are inheritantly politicized due to people trying to pass laws to deny us our rights. So some of us can't ever get a true break from politics which is the point of the statement.

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McKUltra22•

There is literally an entire forum dedicated to this subject. It’s not unreasonable to ask people to keep it limited to that forum.

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barryandorlevon•

If it was reasonable then that would already be a rule of the sub, just like the rule to “be friendly,”’which you’ve already broken in your previous comment.

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DupontPFAs•

How does this address the OP's request?

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thareaper•

Cringe.

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CommanderBubbles1born and bred•

Nah. This sub has discussed political issues for years, it's not some new thing. Go look at the top posts in this sub. It's never been a place just for the discussion of bluebonnets and queso. It's also important that we're able to have discussions that concern the whole state on a sub with 400k+ members rather than 30k. And like other comments have pointed out, this is no time to be quiet about politics in Texas.

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axolotlolol•

The political posts will continue until rights improve.

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Cinadon•

“Rights” that will never be explicitly defined or simply expanded beyond what was originally stated even if achieved

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bubbles5810born and bred•

Owning people was a “right” originally defined in text.

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gking407•

“politics” and “noise” means you don’t give a crap, which is fine, but I do. I respect the rules but I didn’t see where it specifically said no politics.

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barryandorlevon•

Interesting! I clicked on the post history of every comment here that agrees with OP and the one thing they all have in common is that absolutely not a single solitary one of the people who don’t want to see politics post anything in this sub. If you want to see more non-political posts in this sub then why the fuck aren’t y’all making any of the posts that you’d rather see???

Be the change you want to see! Contribute something to the sub for once instead of seeking to silence those who do contribute. Fuckin give us something “good” to discuss!

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Jonestown_Juice•

No, thanks.

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Rev_aint_no_bitch•

Are you sure? Imagine if this sub was JUST pictures of junky abandon buildings!

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nemocluecrjNortheast Texas :txlonghorn:•

Based on these comments, it sure seems like a lot of people here are made uncomfortable simply by being told what they've voted for. In which case, we need more politics, not less.

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AfterUnderstanding21OP•

That is not why I brought this up. I am actually more on the left, like probably most people here.

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Deadbeatdone•

Maybe youre not but theres some right wing people in this comment section for damn sure. I dont want to see politics gone from this sub bc i take pleasure in watching them squirm.

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astanton1862•

I don't know if there is a way to get the balance you want to achieve. I too am a team blue die hard Democrat, and I do think that the frequency of political discussion pollutes this board with political toxicity. That said, news in this state is inherently political. If some cop blows away a kid, that is going to be a political discussion and I surely want to discuss it with people intrested in our community. The police are public servants. Their actions are directed by the political decisions of our communities. To excise that from this sub would be to cut it's heart out.

This is probably more a reddit thing, but it would be nice if we could just click a button that mutes political posts, because the truth is that thinking about politics all the time takes a toll. It would be good if the space had less of it.

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thr3sk•

Maybe not all, I think big news items should be posted here but I really hate how every comment section divulges into political bs when half the time it's not really relevant.

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Mortimer-Houghton•

I don't think people are interested in having their opinions about Texas shunted into a silo where they won't bother anyone. This is likely because the opinions of other Texans are not safely siloed away from them, but are instead being enshrined in the state's laws and forced upon them in increasingly aggressive ways.

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SubzeroNYC•

It's becoming very hard to separate living in Texas from its toxic, inadequate state politics.

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jomm69•

No just filter it.

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MOUDI113•

Politics = news. Essential component for the state sub.

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Nah dude. Yes Texas is a beautiful state and she has plenty to offer, but we just had the biggest rollback of human rights in my lifetime. More then %50 of our populace is affected and suffering because of it and you wanna call that "political noise"? How privlaged can a person be?

Ask again when we have basic human rights back thnx

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incandescence14•

If you don’t like it, make your own subreddit r/texanheadsinthesand

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AfterUnderstanding21OP•

Thank you for the suggestion. I have been trying to come up with a name.

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We can only take so many pictures of bluebonnets, whataburger and sunsets.

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bubbles5810born and bred•

No

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GCpopcorn•

I didn’t realize politics were not allowed. It is a flair option, after all. Politics, traffic, and the weather are about all we’ve got down here to talk about.

Today is an Election Day so maybe out Mods could make an exception?

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ilikewaffos•

That would be untexan 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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We are living in a very politically volatile time. It helps me to see that others care about civil rights, freedom of and from religion, good public education, and other important rights.

I love my country and my state. It's easy to stick my head in the sand, or put on blinders, and avoid politics. But as Ann Richards said, if your not at the table you are on the menu.

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