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iamphook

Looking for ways to be petty and annoy my HOA/property management

We put up some patio lights that were hanging on some poles. Poles are just stuck in dirt - that is inside our patio.

Regulations never said anything about patio lights, but they are using this certain phrase against us to fine us and have them taken down.

"Any modification or alteration of exterior must be approved by architectural committee and or Board of Directors."

These are basically what we put up. (Google Images) https://secure.img1-fg.wfcdn.com/im/89060902/resize-h755-w755%5Ecompr-r85/1439/143983551/Bistro+String+Light+Poles.jpg

I cannot for the life of me, see how this is a modification or alteration? But we are being fined $400 for this.

I took the lights down, and even took off most of the poles, but left the portion that is stuck into the ground. Basically like 2 ft of the pole. Yet, they have a raging hard on for me right now and wants to fine us more for not fully removing them.

So if I took these down, what do you think I could put there instead that is considered legal, but would annoy the fuck out of them?

Posted May 18, 2022, 12:08 AM UTC

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SirTristam•

Start requesting weekly approval from the architectural committee and or board to alter the height of you lawn.

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baubleheadbob•

you can PROBABLY fight this with the fact the lights are temporary, and not a permanant fixture, because they do appear like they could be permanant. IDK about your state, but you shouldnt be fined for a certain period of time to rectify/have a hearing on the issue, check your laws/regs.

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Put the poles in a huge flower pot and move them around every now and then

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itsverynicehere•

Election signs out the wazoo, huge Trump or Biden Flag in front of the house. Get a satellite dish and a basketball goal. They can't do anything about those things.

On a serious note, many HOA's have rules about "Architectural Control" of the front of your property vs the rear vs certain distances from your home that you can do whatever you want. Time to read up on those HOA rules.

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eightbitagent•

They can limit political signs to within a month of an election

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Depending on the state. Colorado just passed a bill last year that puts no limits or restrictions on political signs.

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lkn240•

Where I live they can ban them altogether. Both of my homes do not allow anything but US flags (and I love it to be honest)

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Fr2edom2020•

Plastic lawn ornaments x1000

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iamphookOP•

Thanks! I'm going to buy a nice looking one that's flipping the middle finger. Going to put it on my patio furniture facing the direction they come from when they do their weekly inspections.

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AclockworkBlu•

OMG! You put these people through this!?! Did you ever think of their poor eyes or the $.50 in lower property value?

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bloodfeier•

If modification isn’t allowed, but moveable temporary installations would be fine, go buy 8 steel rims at a junkyard, weld them together into a set of 4 2-rim stacks, and use them to hold the 4 removable temporary lightpost holders!

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onpointrideop•

If you are in the US, you have the right to:

-Fly the American flag (American flag act 2005)

-Have a satellite dish or antenna (FCC OTARD rule)

-Some states permit election signs, removal of these signs by an elected official could be considered election tampering in some places.

I am not a lawyer. This is not legal advice.

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Start doing things that are ugly but technically allowed without regulation.

Can you put posters inside your windows? Post pictures of literal trash.

The ultimate f you is to just move.

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tpacoa•

You're not going to be happy about the answer that you'll about to get.

The reason that the language is not specific because there's an endless list of things people can do to modify and alter a space.

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iamphookOP•

Thanks. I'll probably go take a stroll and see what others are doing in their patio spaces. I'll find something similar to what most are doing but is obnoxious. I'm ready to go to fucking war.

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SmellGandalf•

Do what i did: find out where the president lives and start watching their house like a hawk. Read the rules and just report them for every little thing using burner emails

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eightbitagent•

Just fill out the stupid form and they’ll approve it. You didn’t follow the rules, follow them and it’ll be fine

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iamphookOP•

Might be too late now. I mailed a letter with a giant middle finger to them yesterday. I doubt it's going to get approved now lol

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Why don’t you just ask for permission from the committee?

They aren’t telling you that you can’t have lights or that you can never do anything to your house. They’re saying that everything on the exterior must be approved first, otherwise it’s considered a violation. So request approval.

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bluemurmur•

^^^ This! Ask for approval/permission to hang the lights.

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UnethicalFood•

Hold the lights up with drones.

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valiantdistraction•

Find some really ugly and durable statues at thrift stores. Many of the ugliest and heaviest you can get for cheap.

When the HOA asks for them to be removed, tell them they were gift from your grandma.

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cdb230•

It depends on how easy it is to submit issues or change requests to the HOA.

Start submitting issues for every little problem within the HOA. Make sure it is valid but really petty. For example, if lawncare comes out on fridays, submit issues about the lack of upkeep on Thursdays. Where I am, weeds can become visible in a week or so. If you submit the same issue multiple times, include something like “previous reports of this issue have not been addressed.”

Next, if they want you to submit change requests for any exterior modifications, go ahead. Submit a simple request for each little thing. Request to plant a single flower. Then another. Then another. If you want to put up a fence, submit a request for each pole and board you want to put up. When they start rejecting each of these items, submit an appeal and request a meeting to discuss. Then skip the meeting.

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mo8414•

Tons of american flags. There is a federal law stating anyone can put up a flag on their property even if they are In an HOA

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seattle-random•

You put those in your front patio or the back patio?

Why not just ask for permission for the lights. Then you could put up the exact thing that they said you couldn't. That would be a bit of in-your-face.

But request a hearing and they're likely to remove the fine if you fill out the required permission form for the lights. The problem is that if an HOA allows 1 person to put up things without permission then everyone else wants the same thing. And then the HOA can get sued for discrimination or preferential treatment or other such things, which ends up costing every owner in the HOA legal fees.

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Thundarz1•

Proposal multiple amendments to the CCRs to add or remove rules after reading thru the CCRs a few time including adding or removing approved paints. I suggest bright royal purple for front doors as it is a magical Colour. Each formally proposal needs a second ing as this would be done at a meeting. And have the proposals written and signed as they are seconded so that when you get them they can’t say that they don’t recall that proposal Video is wonderful for thisEach proposed amendment requires its own public meeting where every member is slow to voice their opinion of said proposal and a separate meeting afterwards to vote on said amendment. They will of course try to consolidate the meetings to try to get all os the proposals done in one meetings but each one must be done on different nights. And the vote not taken on the same night as the discussion now this isn’t even the part to annoy the board the annoyance factor is that the full board must attend every single one of these meetings/voting and hire a neutral person to count the secret ballets in full view to prevent stuffing the ballet box If you in the right state and the HOA is old enough the entire CCRs might have reached their expiration date if so the entire CCR must be voted on to be revitalized and that takes at least 3/4 of the entire Hoa members to vote yes.

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BreakfastBeerz•

Ah yes, the fun "how can I make my house look like shit to piss off the HOA (even though the HOA doesn't give a shit what your house looks like, they just need to enforce the rules)" thread. Haven't seen one of these in a few weeks.

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iamphookOP•

Never said I was trying to make it look like shit. Just trying to find ideas that are borderline legal to piss them off.

Of course I wouldn't just flood my house with American flags - people might think I'm a republican.

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xcedra•

Do they have a limit on how tall your lawn ornaments can be? Mine does.

Get as many lawn ornaments as you can, gnomes, geese, gargoyles. Make them one inch shorter than the limit.

My state limits how much they can fine you, 50 for a single violation and 10 a day up to 90 days for ongoing issues.

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