[1311] Chapter 1 - Any Port in a Storm
Hi guys, I figured I'd post this before I lost my nerve. I haven't written anything creatively for a long time, so this is just something for fun to get the gears moving. It could be a first chapter of...something, but it's really just to get something out, so I don't have a title for the whole piece. I thought my current title might work for the chapter, though, so that's what I'm calling the doc for now.
In particular, I'm looking for feedback on:
- Pacing
- Writing style/voice
- Exposition - too much/too little information?
- Dialogue - one of the biggest. Does it make you cringe? I would like to know.
- Would you keep reading?
- Does this feel like YA? It's okay if it feels like adult's, it's okay if it feels like children's; I just don't want it to feel like YA.
- Names - I'm worried they're weird. I don't know why they would be, but I'm worried that they are.
But any other crit you feel like giving is very much appreciated!
Content warnings: suicidal ideation, mentions of self harm, prisons (solitary confinement)
My submission: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TAMsX7Oj7CpehYej1E_yeiJt93z3m10eOwSDoBaukks/edit?usp=sharing
Used crits:
Posted May 21, 2022, 6:20 AM UTC · edited
READ-ALONG COMMENTS
My immediate reaction is that this is going to be a boring-as-hell story. About six months ago I didn't know shit about writing (and I still don't lol) so I was googling things like "how write good" and pretty much every basic list of "how write good" includes, somewhere, the idea that beginning a story with the main character waking up is the most overdone and least creative choice you can possibly make.
THAT SAID. The next sentence does explain the character is in jail, which is a bit of a twist, so that got my hopes up a little bit. Maybe this is a purposeful bait and switch type of scenario, where you're specifically trying to turn overdone shit into new shit that's actually interesting?
Okay but then there was this lol, which is also mentioned on a lot of those lists I was talking about. Waking up AND amnesia? I'm not sure if I'm being played with right now, which is affecting how I perceive the tone of the story. Like if this is an April Fool's type situation, then I should be reading humor into this. But given the content warnings, I'm... hesitant to say that's what's going on. I don't know what to hope for right now. I half-expect another couple overdone writing tropes to kick in in the next paragraph.
Another thing on many lists: writing about dreams instead of writing about events. Is that what's about to happen? My suspicion that this is purposeful usage of tropes is growing. I'm doing my best to read past it and be engaged with the story, but it's almost reached a kind of meta at this point that I can't help but wait for the next one to pop up. It's like a game.
There is some interesting word arrangement going on here. I have an immediate negative reaction to the way "for" is used here because I think it's overused in general, and used in the wrong contexts. I expect a very specific type of character to say this in a very specific type of setting (basically like a religious figure reciting a religious text or giving a religious speech and outside of that it mostly sounds weird and unnatural to me). I do not expect an average person living in contemporary/future times to speak/think this way.
This I feel ambivalent towards. It'll be a little harder to explain why, and this could just be me.
So this story opens with some relatively plainly stated suicidal ideation, right? That's what you want your reader to believe your character is feeling throughout the story, I'm guessing, since it's how you open and nothing about their situation has changed to affect the way they feel about the value of continuing to live.
In real life, people can be at once suicidal with a plan and also be terrified of being hit by a bus or falling off the edge of a cliff. That is true. We contain multitudes and are capable of feeling two opposite things simultaneously. Which is what your character is doing.
My thoughts, however, are that this might be the wrong move to take with a fictional character, unless this is like, literary fiction and you're going to spend a long-ass time going over and over the way these two feelings coexist, how that can possibly be, how those simultaneous feelings wax and wane and battle each other for dominance over their character's decisions.
If you're not going to be perseverating over how weird and human it is to be feeling both actively suicidal and afraid for your life, then to streamline this narrative and keep the reader from getting confused about how they're supposed to read your character's psychological state, I'd try to rework their fear to be a fear of something other than dying, which is what they supposedly want to do. They can fear pain (that's what a lot of suicidality is anyway: a fear of continued pain), they can fear loss, they can fear a lot of things happening to them that isn't specifically the vague notion of loss of life, and I think that would help keep the character's psychological state straight in my mind.
This suggests the existence of magic to me. Is that the case? Obviously up to now I've been imagining a very realistic, contemporary setting. If there is magic in this world, can I get a hint of that closer to the beginning so I don't have to rework my mental image of the setting at the halfway point? If not, I might suggest changing "magelight" to something else (and maybe this is just a typo?) and maybe also the long, white cloaks. Are they meant to just be coats? What I'm trying to convey here is my setting confusion and how long it's pulled me out of the story to silently ask these questions. "Mental listeners" is another bit of confusing and unclear language. Maybe with further description I'd have a better understanding of what's going on there.
This is the first I'm hearing of the pictures. If the tests are going to be a big part of this story, consider including some more information about what exactly these tests entail closer to the beginning? Tests have been talked about a lot but I've never had any idea what to picture when the narrator refers to them. Are these physical endurance tests? Tests of pain tolerance? Tests of willpower? Or, as "pictures" suggests to me, tests of association? Right now it's just too vague for me.
Thesis: in first-person POV, only write what the character notices. If the character doesn't know it's happening, it can't appear on the page without breaking the laws of reality. If the other man had been trying to get his attention for a long time and hadn't succeeded, how did the narrator know it was happening? He wasn't paying attention, so he wouldn't know, so this line can't happen.
What lines like this do is distance the reader from the character's mind by forcing them to see the world outside of the character's head to make sense of the sentence. When you choose to use first-person, what you're saying is that you want the reader as far inside your character's head as possible. Distance created by unnoticeable things being noticed is the opposite of that. If you want to write about things that your character doesn't know or isn't familiar with, you want to use a third-person narrative.
Ooh, another one of my favorite things to comment on in first-person. In first-person narratives, it is almost always unnecessary for the narrator to say what their eyes are doing. Think about it this way: this entire story is taking place through the narrator's eyes, right? It goes back to what I said before: everything that happens on the page is something the narrator/character notices. Everything the character doesn't notice doesn't happen on the page. So, whenever anyone does anything, whenever anything appears, whenever an object or person in the scene is being described, it is because the narrator is actively looking at it. Which means you do not have to say what their eyes are doing. It goes without being said that their eyes are doing these things.
When you do write about what first-person eyes are doing, you're again inviting narrative distance that I'm assuming you don't want because you chose first-person. You are forcing your reader to picture your narrator's face and eyes, instead of having them see through the narrator's eyes.
The only time (in my opinion) you should find yourself writing about where a narrator is looking or how they're looking at it is when it conveys a specific mood or is otherwise super important to the scene. So like, it's good to say if your narrator is purposefully not looking at something, because that conveys information about how the narrator is feeling.
And then finally, in place of saying things like "eyes roamed over his face", which implies that the narrator's eyes were doing this for a considerable amount of time, you can use the length of description of what they're looking at to show how long they were looking at it. If your narrator goes on and on about how something/someone looks, detailing them and filling out the image for the reader, that implies fairly easily that they spent a good long time looking at it. On the other hand, if your narrator only gave a short sentence to that thing/person's description, it's kind of the same thing as them giving that thing/person a cursory glance. Length of description goes a long way to make phrases like "eyes roam over" unnecessary.
This seems to be an insignificant detail in the face of what the main character is dealing with on a macro level. Would they really have this thought here? Or would they be more concerned with being heard/seen, want to leave too quickly, and maybe accidentally step on something sharp in their rush to escape? Just thinking about priorities here.
This is difficult to comment on. I'm torn on how to suggest going about it so that it's less confusing. So my issue is that the character has amnesia, but they know what magelight is, which means that even with amnesia they understand they're in a world with magic, right? So where is the existence of magic in the beginning of the story? Or how can it be made more apparent so that I'm not opening this and thinking I'm reading contemporary?
Alternative: the amnesia prevents her from even understanding what that light is, but that would require a lot more work on your part as the writer to provide explanations in a way that isn't info-dumpy.
PACING
After the first page, it wasn't slow! Pace was not a big issue for me here. The action really picks up after that first page and stays pretty fast to the end. The first page being slow is a mix of issues I had with the writing, some confusing elements I listed above, and just a bunch of summarizing of events, introspection which I think could be cut down, clarified, and rewritten to be more engaging. (What are the tests? What specifically does she fear? Where is the magic coming into these scenes?)
VOICE
I had some minor issues with the writing style that kept this from having the voice of a specific character, because it felt too much like it was trying to create a feel that didn't fit the story. This might be helped by making it obvious earlier on that it's fantasy, but also some of the creative word arrangements just didn't work for me because, like I said, I don't expect anyone but a religious figure to be speaking this way.
EXPOSITION
Too much time spent summarizing events in the first page. Second page has what I think is the correct feel given the main character's situation. We as readers don't know what the fuck is going on because the narrator doesn't know what the fuck is going on. That seems appropriate to me. I think the way to go here is to jump right into a "test" scene to amp up that addled feeling from the get-go.
DIALOGUE
I actually thought the dialogue was your strength in this chapter. Almost all of it felt very natural and I could "hear" these lines more clearly than most of the narrative. Only thing I'll note is here:
Between "do you recognize me" and "please wear this", I think there should be a noticeable pause where he waits for her to answer that question. Maybe even shakes his head, says "never mind", something to show that he did actually want an answer and realized he wasn't going to get the one he wanted.
The names didn't seem weird to me.
KEEP READING?
Hard question for this one! I think, the way it is right now, I'd be too busy "reading critically" to really stay engaged in it, even though I do think the last third of the chapter had good pull and I'm interested in the plot. If there were big changes to the first page and generally in the way this was written to make it truer to first-person conventions, I think I would. Just so I could stay engaged instead of constantly being like "why did they write that? That's unnecessary."
That's all I've got! Thank you for sharing and I hope you find this helpful.
hi doxy thank you for your critique and for reading my story!! you're so right about the premise and the 1st/3rd person issues. you'd think with how often I harp on the limitations of first person in my own crits that I'd be better about it? but apparently not. your comments about her motivations have given me a lot to think about as well. I didn't intend for her to be actively suidical, more like....reflexively.....? anyway, clearly it isn't coming across the way I want it to. that will be getting reworked.
as for the voice, would you be mad if I kept it like that 😭😭 I just wrote and it came out that way. I guess Mara is kind of an asshole. but I will definitely try to improve the plot hiccups you mentioned that were distracting, mostly by establishing that it was fantasy early on. and I expect the voice will change a bit anyway once I rewrite that section.
man. I should've known something was off when I had to slog through the first page but wrote the second and third in a manic haze.
anyway I saw that you posted something right before I did!! I am busy today and possibly tomorrow but I will try to read that soon!!
You'd think with how often I tell people things are awkwardly worded that I'd know how grammar works lol. I'm pretty sure this is all of us.
I mean hey, it's your story! That was just my singular reaction in a sea of potential reactions. And like, plenty of published works have one characteristic or another that I'm not fond of, but when everything else works really well, I can look past it and enjoy the book anyway.
This could have been due to the meta emphasis placed on it by your content warnings in and outside the document. I don't know how it would read without my attention being drawn to it as an integral part of her character build.
I used this as an indicator throughout my first (shelved) manuscript in first-person. The feedback I got was that the pace was very fast, which fit how I felt writing it (5k words a day generally, super manic lol, and the parts that took forever to write almost all got cut for being too slow or boring). It's a really useful feeling that I think you can go by to help determine how it's going to read to others.