[Sun Care] LRP ANTHELIOS UVMUNE 400 | filter percentages
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Posted May 26, 2022, 1:01 PM UTC
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where to buy this? at the ~$15 range it's sold out in some of the uk sites but $27 on ebay :(
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I ordered them from Care to Beauty; it's based in Portugal.
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Thank you for suggesting this, I just ordered from them and the shipping is very reasonable! I can't wait to try it.
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Great find Stav! Thanks for sharing.
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Thank you !
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I love this photo 🥰
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This is great, thank you!
I know I shouldn't be looking at percentages this closely, but I'm wondering if the extra 2.5% of avobenzone in the fluid is compensated for in the cream with the extra 0.5% Uvinul A Plus and 1.5% Mexoryl XL for UVA protection.
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Unless they publish any information regarding the protection factor or the breadth of protection (the shape of the absorption curve) we cannot speculate, because the overall formulation may affect it. If you prefer one product over the other then the difference should not be that great. I think applying more of the product because you enjoy it will compensate for any differences.
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It was a bit sad watching Dr. Dray's latest video about this sunscreen when she said we'll likely never see superb UV filters like this in the USA due to the convoluted and lengthy process of drug/medication approval here.
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There are people who are sad because these filters will not be available in the US but other
people are happy the FDA is not approving filters that have not been researched for decades. In any case, applying whatever sunscreen is the best one you can find where you are based is significantly better than not applying sunscreen.
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Don't get me wrong, I am very appreciative of the colossal amount of work and scrutiny that goes into making sure that all drugs/medications that make it to the American market are safe. I hate to think of the horrors that could happen if we didn't have such a good watchdog on our side. After seeing the tremendous global effort to bring safe and effective Covid-19 vaccines to the public I guess I'm just wistfully hoping for more team efforts to see advances in all areas of healthcare - including sunscreen.
I trust Europe's screening and approval processes, too - in some cases, they seem to take an even stronger stance on public health/safety. I've read that certain problematic food additives and ingredients in cosmetics that are permitted in the US are banned in Europe. Pesticides that cause harm to bees (and our food supply as a result) also aren't permitted in Europe, whereas the US just approved the use of four neonicotinoid-class chemicals for use on food crops for the next 15 years. Neonicotinoids are known killers of bees, butterflies, and many other vital insects and wildlife. That's horrendous for the planet.
I trust Europe's assessment of sunscreen ingredients and I trust the FDA. Hopefully, in the future, we'll see a greater variety of UV-protective filters reaching the American market.
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I saw L’Oréal’s study on the new filter and they tested it at percentages of 1.5 and 3%. Why include it at 1% in the actual product? Thanks for this info.
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There are many reasons. Could be cost could be cosmetic elegance could be addition of formulated tricks they boost the filter’s action. The tests are done to establish the action of the filter and the effects on skin physiology. What ends up getting used in the product does not reflect the exact research.
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Mmm, the hydrating cream has less Avobenzone than the fluid version. I guess I will go with the hydrating cream then, because Avobenzone can generate free radicals even when stabilized with Tinosorb S, so, in my opinion, the less Avobenzone, the better.
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How do we know what percentage is required to achieve the desired protection ? Like how significant is the difference between 4.5% Ethylhexyl Triazone found in the invisible fluid vs 5% in the hydrating cream ?
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We don’t know. The manufacturer creates a formula that believes will achieve a good protection.
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Anthelios UVMUNE 400 Invisible Fluid
5% Ethylhexyl salicylate
4.5% Bis-ethylhexyloxyphenol methoxyphenyl triazine
4.5% Ethylhexyl Triazone
4.5% Butyl Methoxydibenzoylmethane
1% Methoxypropylamino Cyclohexenylidene Ethoxyethylcyanoacetate
0.5% Diethylamino Hydroxybenzoyl Hexyl Benzoate
0.5% Drometrizole Trisiloxane
0.33% Terephthalylidene Dicamphor Sulfonic Acid
Anthelios UVMUNE 400 Hydrating Cream
5% Ethylhexyl salicylate
5% Ethylhexyl Triazone
4.5% Bis-ethylhexyloxyphenol methoxyphenyl triazine
2% Drometrizole Trisiloxane
2% Butyl Methoxydibenzoylmethane
1% Methoxypropylamino Cyclohexenylidene Ethoxyethylcyanoacetate
1% Diethylamino Hydroxybenzoyl Hexyl Benzoate
0.33% Terephthalylidene Dicamphor Sulfonic Acid
Please keep in mind that the percentages of the filters are just part of the overall formulation. Therefore they should NOT be used to
determine the final protection of the products.
As reference, the old Invisible Fluid/old Shaka Fluid used 3.5% Avobenzone/Butyl Methoxydibenzoylmethane and 4% Tinosorb S/Bis-ethylhexyloxyphenol methoxyphenyl triazine.
Do you know which filter(s) are responsible for the strong yellow tint? I know Uvinul is yellow but it's such a tiny amount (.33%-.5%) that I'm wondering if any others are. Both of these sunscreens are unwearable for me unfortunately.
It is a combination of Uvinul A Plus, Avobenzone, Tinosorb S Aqua and Mexoryl 400 that are all yellow/orange.
Oh man lol. Thanks.
On me the fluid is drastically more yellowing that the cream, so the extra Avobenzone should be doing the "heavy lifting". Although, yes, the other filters also impart a yellow-ey cast.