Why are people so upset with Wolfenstein II?

Question

I never understood why people like TNO more than TNC. The gunplay and movement in TNC is so perfect and fast. TNO was amazing aswell but it's very aged really quick imo.

Anyone care to explain? I honestly don't get it

Posted May 29, 2022, 4:59 PM UTC

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3rudite•

Because a bunch of white supremacists decided that killing fascist filth was “political”

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xComplexOPSerious Sam•

Always thought nazi's are people everyone likes to fight and kill in games. Like sniper elite

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3rudite•

Yeah unfortunately we have a Nazi problem in real life right now that’s waiting to get taken care of.

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WeekendBard•

I don't get it either, TNC seemed cool, but I haven't played it, so I can't really have an opinion? Is the gameplay interrupted by cutscenes constantly? Because I think I've seen someone say this

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xComplexOPSerious Sam•

There were a lot of cutscenes Ill agree on that, but it never really interrupted a lot of gameplay

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FilthyCasual05•

Max Payne 3 oof-

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Gorebat_666•

Because it showed America's true colors

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smjsmok•

The gameplay is good, I don't think that's anyone's problem. Many people certainly had a problem with how "political" the game is. I personally didn't really care about that, but even without this, I feel that the writing simply wasn't as good as in TNO. There was more story and the writing was (arguably) worse, which is the opposite of what I would expect in a game of this kind. Lots of exposition and cutscenes with some truly bizarre and out of place moments.

For example, I really cannot understand why they took Wyatt, who was IMO quite an interesting character in the first one, and transformed him into a complete joke who shoots acid and chases cartoon mice for half of the story (I'm not making this up). What happened to the green private who became a tough, serious and traumatized resistance fighter? And the final scene with pregnant Anya...what the f**k was that?!

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xComplexOPSerious Sam•

You mentioning pregnant Anya gives me flashbacks and they are not pretty. I can definetly agree on that.

Wyatt shooting acid is probably one of my favourite parts about the game, simply to see (in my honest opinion) how a soldier can break and be traumatized to the point where acid is his escape. Not saying its good, but I understand the decision.

When you mention politics I think you're talking about Grace mostly. Grace is imo the worst character out of everyone. That part annoyed me aswell, but it didn't distract me from killing Nazi's

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ForsakenFool93•

While I like TNC, my biggest issue with it is gameplay pacing.

The gunplay is super satisfying but I feel like I remember it being broken up way too frequently by lengthy cinematics.

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xComplexOPSerious Sam•

How so?

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xComplexOPSerious Sam•

I like it...? Solo...?

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thedoogster•

It de-emphasized stealth compared to the TNO and The Old Blood.

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xComplexOPSerious Sam•

Never really thought of stealth when playing any Wolfenstein game. Because y'know, it's Wolfenstein

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Ta0Ta•

I haven't played it, but from what I hear it has a shitload of cutscenes and sections where the player isn't in control of BJ.

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3rudite•

I can’t think of any times where you don’t control BJ. Still very plot focused, definitely not a boomer shooter, but not a modern shooter per se either. It’s it’s own thing which I personally quite enjoyed.

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maneil99•

Levels were broken up to often, and I found the level design not as great as TNO. Funny enough Youngblood on easier difficulties with health bars disabled is a blast

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