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thinkmurphy

Angela didn't deserve what Eleven did to her (Stranger Things)

I get it that Angela is a bully and deserved something to happen to her; prank back, a fight maybe? But to be hit in the head with a blunt object was overboard. Mike's reaction was justified and the writers of the show knew this and had her arrested. I only say this because I feel like I'm taking crazy pills when her actions are constantly celebrated on the r/StrangerThings sub and downplaying what she did.

Posted Jun 7, 2022, 8:42 PM UTC

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Obie527quiet person•

Nah, if you talk shit, eventually you will get hit.

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thinkmurphyOP•

"Talk shit" words

"get hit" violence.

Got it, thanks!

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OtherHugh•

Angela went to violence first and she didn’t stop at just “talk shit”.

Angela tripped El in the quad. The tripping constitutes the legal definition of assault.

Then the other bully smashed her diorama. That’s destruction of private property.

Then they cornered her in the middle of rink and made it so she couldn’t leave. If you keep someone from moving freely and prevent them from leaving, that’s kidnapping.

Then they dumped a milkshake on her all while filming it. Again, that’s something physical that went beyond “mean words”.

It doesn’t excuse El’s attack on Angela. There are better ways to handle it and you could make the argument that her blunt roller skate attack was not a proportional respond. But it’s not a case of “words only” bullying like you make it out to be.

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Rainbwned•

Angela needed to get hit. She was John Hughes Highschool level of cruel. If she didn't get hit in the face, she 100% would have been killed by the antagonist. Now, she is going to have a chance at redemption and offer a helping hand in a moment of need.

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Lord-daddy-•

Sticks and stone may break my bones, but words will never harm me is the most backwards boomer saying ever

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Gillalmighty•

Yea I have no issue with it. Fuck that bitch.

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gb2ab•

oh she absolutely deserved it. play stupid games, win stupid prizes

mikes reaction is only justifiable because he witnessed one single instance of eleven being relentlessly bullied

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thinkmurphyOP•

She deserved attempted murder? There are even people saying she should've kept going.

I believe you should absolutely defend yourself, but that's not what happened here.

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nebnoslo•

I don't know if you're trolling, but Angela made fun of her constantly for being behind the other kids, tripped her in front her friends, destroyed her diorama, made fun of her for her dad being dead, and got a skate rink of kids to trap Eleven in the middle of a rink and tell her how much they hated her. Then Eleven asked for an apology and Angela laughed at her. What should she have done? Told the teachers that saw abuse and didn't care?

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Jwishh•

Attempted murder seems like a stretch

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Relative-Discount580•

How can somebody be so stupid? Do you hear yourself? So the bar of bully and trauma is up to you to determine? No idiot, nobody told her what to do, she can tell nobody how to react, idiot

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Front_World205•

i think everyone wish they can do that to their bullies.

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thinkmurphyOP•

Yeah, to the point of going into school with guns.

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AnarchyAcid•

The way you say “prank back” like she simply played a fun joke on El. I am not saying what El did wasn’t wrong (it was), but Angela honestly needed to be taken down a peg, so do her creep friends. I don’t feel bad for her, I would if El had actually killed her, but she wasn’t trying to.

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Republixcan•

The kicker is the scene after when all the onlookers are all, "Gee, why would that chick we were all laughing at, and mocking suddenly attack that poor girl with a skate? It was SOOOOO uncalled for!" play stupid games, win stupid prizes, and El gave her an out.

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Rare-Bid-6860•

And for my next trick; "Cops Are The Real Victims Here"

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thinkmurphyOP•

What...?

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PrinceKagato•

Not only did Angela deserve it, so did all her little minions. Learn to treat others with respect or get the crap beat out of you!

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hyperlinktoZelda_v2•

She really didn't. That shit was brutal. It's kind of disgusting how people are cheering on the brutal assault like this. I get El standing up for herself, but she took it too far.

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yungstraddle•

Didn't take it far enough tbh

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hyperlinktoZelda_v2•

Pretty sure slaughtering your bullies isn't the answer 001.

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yungstraddle•

No better way to teach them the concept "fuck around and find out"

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hyperlinktoZelda_v2•

So by that logic Columbine was justified?

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andritine•

Pretty sure making people (who are already insanely traumatized btw) WISH they were dead because of how you and your minions treat them isn’t the answer either. That fucker deserved FAAAR worse. Ranting about El “snitching” then getting the police involved when El gets her back? Such hypocrisy.

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hyperlinktoZelda_v2•

Two wrongs don't make a right.

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rayquazza74•

Psh na! Mental trauma is just as bad as physical trauma. You can literally make a person go crazy with enough mental trauma. Angela deserved to be hit in the head for her constant tormenting of eleven. She’s lucky eleven didn’t have her powers and was rather patient with her. A person can only take so much until they fight back. Eleven was 1,000,000,000,000,000% justified.

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hyperlinktoZelda_v2•

Trauma isn't an excuse for brutal assault.

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rayquazza74•

It’s an excuse to fight back. Angela F’d around and found out just as she deserved.

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hyperlinktoZelda_v2•

Fight back? Fine. Bitch slap her and move on. Give her a bloody concussion though? Unnecessary.

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Sapphire_Indigo•

Every scene with Angela has shown her to be way over the top cruel to Eleven. I almost could not stand to watch the bullying scenes, they were so bad. Honestly Angela antagonized her in everyway she could. Academically trying to mess with her presentation, tripping her, destroying her work, making fun of her dead father, rounding up others to film, taunt, film her, and throw food at her. People snap and although not everyone bashes someone in the head, Eleven has had a very traumatic childhood. No way that Angela couldve known her past, but El really still struggles with language and being able to verbalize emotions. The only real conflict resolution shes ever been taught is to physcially repel her agressors. I know Angela did not physically touch her at the rink but it bothers me Angela is the victim when she caused this. You don't torment people for your own self entertainment and get to play oh boo hoo pity me when they fight back. Eleven did not deserve what Angela did to her. Maybe if she minded her own business during the presentation, maybe if she didn't trip her, maybe if she reflected on her own actions instead of calling the victim that never ratted you out a snitch and then tried to get revenge by public humilation and taunting her dead father, this might not have happened.

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SpareIllustrator6382•

I think mikes reaction was justified but Angela was just so mean that i don’t feel any sympathy for her at all. I personally wouldn’t do that to someone even if i was being bullied but I mean if i saw that happen to her IRL i wouldn’t be opposed. If you wanna bully someone by just making comments at them or laughing at them at school that’s something different then surrounding them and pouring a shake on them in front of a whole roller rink & her BF who you can see she is obvi trying to impress and then recording it and laughing at it like 5 min after. so mean. i hate her, I do love her outfits tho

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yungstraddle•

Violence is never the answer. Except when it is.

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Arytold•

She had it coming. She had to be stopped before she pissed off the wrong person, someone who might have had access to a gun maybe.

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SirJuliusStark•

If Eleven had her powers it could have been worse.

That monster got off lucky IMO. If you are being bullied you have to stand up for yourself, and if that means hitting your bully in the face with a roller skate, I'm not gonna get that upset. "Fuck around and find out" is a saying for a reason.

Though the fact Eleven is a girl gives her far more leeway. A man or young boy hitting another man or young boy in the face with a weapon would have had him in cuffs immediately, or shot in some cases.

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Unambiguous-Doughnut•

The fact she is a woman gives her leeway what that has nothing to do with it she was still arrested only difference was the writers wanted the drugged-up conversation in the car to take place and for Joyce to leave to save hopper which if el was arrested would have been postponed entirely so the writers cleverly wrote it so she got arrested the next morning gender ain't got anything to do with it.

If we talking realistically the DJ would not have changed the music to belittle el and the number of people laughing be lowered to only a few people at the school cause realistically that many people who could get the joke would likely not be there half would be on the fence about getting involved in general for appearance sake other than the people directly insulting her and the people that work there would be trying to do something to stop it and it would instead be a very tense atmosphere for both parties involved even back then like I find it real unrealistic even the people working there were involved like a lot of people lost their job that day.

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500YenCoin•

She deserved it. You're downplaying Angela's bullying too.

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Big_Mama_80•

I'll step out on the limb and say that I 100% agree with you! It's like the old saying, "Two wrongs never made a right."

Now I do agree that Eleven had every right to stand up for herself, but to resort to violence? No way! She could've easily killed Angela with that skate.

A smart person uses their mouth to fight their battles. Eleven could've confronted Angela in front of everyone with a well thought out tongue lashing speech... that would've been cool.

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andritine•

you’re forgetting the fact that El was pretty much illiterate and just beginning to learn about language. “Resort to violence”? As if Angela didn’t TRIP her before humiliating her in one scene? I don’t get why the responsibility to be the bigger person always falls on the one being victimized. And El has always had it hard in life and that was the last thing she needed. Angela deserves far worse bc she’s clearly a sociopathic bitch with 0 empathy.

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08ajones•

Na smash her fucking face in

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ssaall58214•

The same people who are cheering her on are the same who are crying pretend tears at every school shooting. Elle is the kid who would shoot up the school not the other way around. Weird, bat shit, doesn't get social norms so normal people stay the fuck away from them. Checks all the boxes.

Not to mention eleven is a mass murderer multiple times over but people forget that. Shes not the hero she's the monster

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[deleted]•

Those who were cheering for her were clearly children. The young fanbase is isolated from society and are hypocrites. Maturing is realizing.

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YallNeedGod•

Fr. I agree that Angela deserved karma, but what El did really was too far. She could have left Angela with permanent brain damage or even killed her. Trauma to the head with a blunt object is no joke. Now if El had done that to Angela's knees or something and even broke her legs, I really wouldn't have an issue with it.

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Cayfish•

Angela deserved it. She made disrespectful of Eleven's father, tried to bring Eleven's mental health down and assembled a gang, win stupid games win stupid prizes. I was so relieved to see Angela hit by a blunt object.

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