Zweilous spawns near lures for those who are curious how many spawn!
Posted Jun 25, 2022, 1:28 AM UTC
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They are desperately for some reason trying to keep shiny Deino rare it seems.
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Given their recent take on shiny rates, I wouldn't be surprised if this was the reason.
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Shiny Deino degrades the game, right Niantic?
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Is it too soon to bring back 'degrade the experience' jokes?
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I think that they may apply here. That could be why Niantic went this route for the bonuses instead of extra XP/candy/stardust. They easily could have made Zweilous Shiny-eligible for CD if they wanted to do the bonus this way.
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The bonus was 1/4 egg distance AND double candy
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I'm referring to the bonus for players catching from lured stops, not overall CD bonus.
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We know the reason. To force players to spend raid passes to spawn more deino after regular CD hours
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I've caught 8 shinys from 80 in the last hour, seems to be plenty around.
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3/62 and 1/50 here
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I got 13 shinys in the first hour. My son got 2. However I took a nap for the rest of the event because my other son is a toddler and I can't play all day.
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I'm sure everyone is just like you with your 1 in 10 shiny rate. Good for you though.
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Mate is there any need to be like that? Im just giving my personal experience on it.
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Just ignore people like that, TSR is littered with people who don't understand how shiny rates work and it's the same issue every CD. For every person that has a good CD there's going to be someone who has a bad one and there's probably no change to shiny odds overall. Without people reporting the good and bad we will never know. I've been on both sides of it, 11 shinies in just over 100 catches for Geodude day and 0 shinies in 250 or so on an Eeevee day once.
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There’s not. Thanks for sharing, reports like yours confirm the shiny rate is likely the same as past community days!
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That's pretty good for a small sample on a community day, but that's not how averages work and also isn't really that exceptional for you to be salty. Good luck to you though.
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Spotted the one who does not know basic math and how an average is calculated.
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Not really it's literally a com day for this mon, everyone's gonna have at least one now
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It’s a plague of them, I’m catching more of them than of deino, and it’s a bit of a problem. I can’t see the deino under all the overlapping zweilous.
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More candies and XL candies, such a pain.
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They can’t be shiny either so many would prioritize catching dienos only
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it's faster to catch few Deino than a single Zweilous though due to the weird position
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I think Zweilous had a boosted catch rate, all of mine were much easier than my Deinos (the position isn't really relevant imo).
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I had a hard time hitting them at all, not to mention landing good throws, but due to the way this game is coded it relies heavily on the device
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Nah just hit your throws lol
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Man, what will I do with all this stardust? After all, it's a common problem that every single player in the entire world never has any stardust problems.
No-one ever runs out. At all. Ever.
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aside from little league why not catch him instead?
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They cannot be shiny.
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Pro: you save 25 candy for evolving deino,you get more candy by catching.
Con: cant be shiny.
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Another Pro: guaranteed candyxl from Zwe
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With the double XL chance and a level 3 mega, I'll already get close to 2 XL per Deino. Zweilous has a catch rate of 10% vs Deino's 40%. I don't know if their catch rate is buffed today, but the extra XL from Zweilous isn't worth the extra work need to catch it.
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near is relative too, i havent left my house and ive been getting them from a lure across the river a few hundred meters away
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Wow! Based on that, it's probably the same 300 meter radius as the "raid lured" Deinos after 2pm.
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I must try that on my way home, think we’ll only have an hour but if we can see them 200 meters away…
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I’m gonna level with you, as a shiny hunter I hate this.
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Yikes, That certainly going to make shiny hunting a lot more difficult. I guess they really are bargaining on people doing a lot of raids to spawn more after hours, to get more shiny chances.
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Not bargaining. Planned. This isn't coincidence
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Seems like Zweilous is also plaguing the after-hours raid spawn thing, if some New Zealand posters are to be believed.
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It didn't really. Mine just ended and ended up with plenty of shinys.
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Edit: this photo is from when I first came across them. Have to say in more stop dense areas and at niantiic activation zones they were thick with zweis.
It made it harder to catch and select deinos and definitely took a significant % of deino spawns away.
That’s either positive or negative depending on what you’re after today…. Lots of XL candy and candy for powering up your few best ones or if you rather have mass shiny checks and easier catches.
The catch rate was improved on then, not much more difficult than the deinos. However for catching / especially AR fast catch they were harder to hit reliably.
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I am hyped for this. I hear the people complaining about reduced shiny Deino chances, and that's a legitimate concern, but I love that there's so many 2nd stage evolutions for the easy XL candy.
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Yeah. I mean I would love some PVP or 100% IV shiny Pokémon, but tbh this is my first chance to get a lvl 50 Pokémon so I’m hyped. Under level 40 so I just started getting XL a few weeks ago.
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Pokemon Level is still capped at trainer level +10. No lvl 50 until you hit 40.
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The easiest way to get a level 50 Pokemon is by opening Meltan boxes, since Meltan is a guaranteed minimum 3 Candy XL Pokemon due to being a mythical.
It would be trivial to farm 600 Meltan Candy XL in 2 weeks (enough for 2 level 50 Melmetal), especially during this 2 week TCG event with reduced mystery box cooldown, not to mention you can open the boxes at a time convenient for you.
Melmetal is also incredibly useful in team rocket battles, and in my opinion, much more useful than lvl 50 Hydregion.
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Yes! Working on my melmetal as well!
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Glad to hear it, and enjoy your new level 50 Pokemon when you get them powered up!
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With the double XL chance and using the mega boost, then that might not matter much. If the Zweilous’ are way harder to catch than the Deino’s then they might be more of a hinderance to getting XL candy.
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Yeah I reached 500 xl candy so thats an easy fully maxed pokemon right there
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Wow! Thank you for sharing. :-)
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I'm sure this will be fixed, thanks to NZ beta testers
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Hard to say since lures are supposed to spawn more and Niantic will think that’ll get more people to lures. I’m only 50/50 they fix/change it.
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I found them good for candy but terrible for shiny hunting, was seeing more of them than Deino and Zweilous was shiny locked for some dumb reason
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Wish I took some screen shots, that's a low count of them. For regions coming on board soon you've been warned. Don't lure those stops!
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You will still get more Deino spawns if lured than if not though. The big guy just gets in the way though.
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It looks like Zweilous is replacing Deino spawns in the wild. And lures only spawn something once every 5 minutes or something. It's really just a better idea to not use lure modules, but inevitably some people won't know any better before it's too late
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Yup, wild Deino “auto evolved” into Zweilous once the threshold was caught.
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Their mom’s made them go chaperone their little brothers for human comm day
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So lures are affecting the wild spawn points to spawn Zweilous? That's a weird decision by Niantic. Makes it harder to get shinies. Should've just made lure spawns have higher chance to be Zweilous but not affect wild spawn points. This makes me want to stay away from lured stops even though I'll need items
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It‘s a cday. It‘s not hard to get shinies. And nobody needs 50+ shiny deino
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1/25 is still only 4%, and you could feasibly play for all 3 of the traditional CDay hours without finding a shiny if your spawns are limited and seemingly half of them are locked
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Played from beginning to end only got 6 shiny
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I disagree. This isn't Geodude or Spheal. I want a lucky shiny 98% or perfect, and I'm sure it will be a popular lucky trade request in general. I'll try to catch a lot and hope my friends do as well
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10 or 20 are still a lot. Got 70 lucky friends and not a single one wants deino. Got 22 shinies in 3 hours, if I would have played more, 50+ shinies would still have been possible. So I don‘t know how to play this cday to get a low rate of shinies. Simply overreacting
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Thats good since you probably won’t even get 20 unless driving and staying away from lures.
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I got 21 without driving and with just 3 hours in a crowded place. And most likely 20 of them get deleted because none of my (lucky)friends wants a shiny deino.
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Unfortunately it sounds like Niantic lied when they said you didn’t need 10 raiders to activate it. That pretty much killed the feature before it began.
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As much as some people hated the whole initial announcement, we already made plans to be 10 trainers after comm day, we kinda liked the exclusivity idea of Deino spawns because we “worked” for it.
But seeing that every trainer gets to see and catch the Deinos, it’s kinda weird that we’re paying money for raids and strangers will sneak in. Good for them, but defeats the whole purpose.
And all the Zweilous spawns before the Zweilous raids? Why? I guess it’s good for the candies but why? Veteran players will hate this comm day.
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wow..i dont mind at all!
what the point of having 1881818 shinies?
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Maybe you get one good one worth evolving out of it.
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i did get a 98% shiny deino and a 100% zwillow
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Wow that's a ton.... how often are they refeshing?
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This looks awful. Have come to expect mediocrity from Niantic now though
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Is there some good reason I am missing that they couldn't make Zweilous shiny for today if not for always? I don't understand why evolutions can't be shiny once the base form is. They are super rare in the wild for the most part, except the occasional event, so how would it hurt?
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how many deinos caught constitutes zweilous showing up? i was going to hang near 2 stops and throw down 2 lure modules but after reading everything, not sure i want to
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That looks very...chaotic. And very difficult to see the Deinos.
Yep they were a pain in the butt and ruined a lot of the best spawn areas
Conspiracy theory time but maybe this was Niantic's intention? People complain that CDs of previously released shinys dilute their value and Niantic want to push 'shinies as content'. By making Deinos spawn less and harder to find when more people are playing, and reducing the time to 3 hours to force more people to play at once they can increase Deinos shiny rarity without messing with it's shiny odds.
Makes sense if you start only getting 5 shinies from com days the 15 you get from a paid event suddenly don't look so bad. Taking the conspiracy hat off though can't complain too much about how much easier Niantic has been making it to get xl candy lately
Who da eff got 15 from a paid event! I have averaged 3.5.
Idk it's all rng because Niantic gonna Niantic but I got 16 from go fest and like 20 something from Johto Tour
And Niantic broke the guaranteed XL from trading feature with the community day rollout.
It's like a bad sitcom, really.
Yeah god bless the beta testers so that by the time it gets to my time zone everything is mostly fixed lol
Definitely intentional
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