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There Is No Oasis

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In the middle of work
I reach for texts in secret
With a longing
I would feel for a shaded grove
As I lean into
The plow

As if in indolence
I could flip an hourglass
To tilt the coolness
Of tilled earth
And receive the air
Weighted with leaves

A draft of words decanted
From a sluice between
Where the sun cannot fall
And my toil cannot reach

If I return with gifts
Let their weight be subtle
On my shoulders
An undisturbed pool
Behind my eyes
A susurration wreathed
Around my speech

Let them be more bearable signs
Of the voice that fell upon me
In that idleness
To speak more fully
Beneath the boughs

Of words that settled with
The dampness of evening
Or perched in flocks, surveilling
The alleys beneath their lines
Or fled at the edge of tall grass
Sloping to the freeway where
My brother lay

Of the unformed
Ends of conversations
Where I’d wished to rend,
As open and oracular
As my father under
The face of grief but could
Only stand in its gloaming
Its fluorescence and hymns

Unable to join those
Less afraid of the work
Who knew their sight
Would sunder here
And behind closed eyelids
Sunder again
To reach for texts
That bloomed beyond longing

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Posted Jul 17, 2022, 7:36 AM UTC · edited

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caorunn3•

I really enjoyed this poem, in particular many of the nature-based phrases like "to tilt the coolness of tilled earth" and "the air weighted with leaves". I also really enjoyed the idea at the start and end of the poem about longing to be doing something else while working.

I found some of the flow a little disjointed. The word "sluice" in the third stanza didn't quite work for me as it didn't match the ideas of hard work out in the open (plowing) or the shaded grove imagery. And although I really liked the phrase "a susurration wreathed around my speech", I felt it didn't quite fit in with the undisturbed pool. Then I was a little confused by the reference to your brother and father - it made me wonder if the brother had died and the father was grieving this, but it was a very fleeting reference to such a big topic, that again didn't quite seem to fit in with the theme of the rest of the poem.

It was quite long with some bits not really progressing the ideas - you could combine and shorten stanzas 3,4 and 5 for instance.

Having said all that, I still really enjoyed it and maybe the meandering nature of the poem adds to the idea of day-dreaming about not having to work.

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frohike_OP•

Thanks for the feedback! You’ve identified some of the issues that crept up with this poem, which is why I submitted it as “workshop” so, seriously, thank you for being honest about this.

It started off with a solid image but when I stepped back, it felt hollow/trite because I’d approached it in a somewhat abstract way. This doubt crept in right at the end of the “gifts” section. Adding the “voice beneath the boughs” sort of snowballed/meandered into what I’m starting to think may just be a second poem.

It could also use some tightening up in that first section, as you pointed out in really constructive ways. The “sluice” does seem to mix in some discordant imagery. I’d initially pictured it as standing beneath the neck of the hourglass but couldn’t find a way to get there.

I’ll keep refining this one. Thanks again for taking the time to read this and provide some useful tips toward improving it. Much appreciated!

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I'm not a very good poet/analyst, but I figured I'd go through each stanza and pick out what I get from them, so you can have an outsider perspective? To summarize, your scenery is absolutely beautiful, and really evokes the sense of longing.

In the middle of work
I reach for texts in secret

These lines feel a little disjointed for me as they're very present in the now, free of any of the scenery or metaphors used in later parts of the poem. Maybe it's because two lines have been dedicated to them? Or maybe they're supposed to stand out for contrast?

As if in indolence
I could flip an hourglass
To tilt the coolness
Of tilled earth
And receive the air
Weighted with leaves

This is absolutely beautiful imagery, and it's easy for us a reader to get that need for reprieve from the words. The line "weighted with leaves" however almost gives me a sense of smothering, as if the air is no longer as pure as it would otherwise have been.

A draft of words decanted
From a sluice between
Where the sun cannot fall
And my toil cannot reach

Is this missing its opening line, or is it referencing the texts in the first stanza? The scenery is beautiful but I find it's missing a line, or imagery relating to the words, to put it into the correct context after two stanzas on the tilled fields.

If I return with gifts
Let their weight be subtle
On my shoulders
An undisturbed pool
Behind my eyes
A susurration wreathed
Around my speech

This is a nice joining of the two "halves" of the poem - the one more focused on the conversation and the other more focused on the tilled earth imagery. I particularly like the last two lines of this. I think it reads beautifully.

Let them be more bearable signs
Of the voice that fell upon me
In that idleness
To speak more fully
Beneath the boughs

Is this referencing the struggles to talk correctly? "The voice that fell upon me" hints that there's something wrong it, as if you've just had to accept your lot. Additionally, "beneath the boughs" and the accompanying plosive alliteration really gives the sense of hardship.

Of words that settled with
The dampness of evening
Or perched in flocks, surveilling
The alleys beneath their lines
Or fled at the edge of tall grass
Sloping to the freeway where
My brother lay

This stanza beautifully portrays what's wrong with the words. "Settled with / the dampness of evening" implies to me that the words are stagnant and unforthcoming. "Surveying the alleys beneath their lines" implies to me that the messages are either ending the conversation or forcing a conflict, as if the flocks are ready to attack what might come as a response. And the final line gives an insight into grief, implying the words were stolen by the death of a loved one.

Of the unformed
Ends of conversations
Where I’d wished to rend,
As open and oracular
As my father under
The face of grief but could
Only stand in its gloaming
Its fluorescence and hymns

Another stanza marrying the concepts of grief and the inability to continue these conversations. The alliteration through this is beautiful. "Open and oracular", "face of grief". Is there a hint of jealousy that the father was able to grieve openly in church, but the subject of the poem can't speak openly in even normal conversations?

Unable to join those
Less afraid of the work
Who knew their sight
Would sunder here
And behind closed eyelids
Sunder again
To reach for texts
That bloomed beyond longing

I really love the use of sibilance here, it gives me a sense of sadness, and highlights a jealousy for those around them that don't struggle. I particularly loved the last line, "that bloomed beyond longing". It ends the poem with a combination of the nature metaphors from earlier, but joins it with the sadness from later stanzas.

This was a beautiful read OP, thank you so much!

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frohike_OP•

This was such a wonderful & generous close reading of the poem. Thank you.

You're right about the "draft of words decanted" ... it seems like I added a daub of paint there and forgot to really blend it with the rest. I'm seeing that "sluice" also mixes the imagery a bit. I'll work on this section some more. Interesting note about "weighted with leaves." I was actually trying to convey something more peaceful/benevolent but I think the term "weight" may be a bit strong here. Good catch.

I know I should take the advice I've given in previous critiques, where I've stated that sometimes the act of finding the poem doesn't necessarily need to be mirrored in the structure of the poem itself and I think I've slipped up here in regards to the second half. The shift occurred because I was uneasy with the trite way I felt I was approaching its end with the "gifts" section. It didn't feel true to me.

I do feel rewarded when I walk away from a reading session but the first part of the poem wasn't doing justice to something more that I take away from these sessions... almost a form of envy. Envy of those who can reach at the limits of language and find ways to surrender while bringing back something controlled and affecting. And that brought me back to my own avoidance of the grief process, which I think had actually triggered my desire to write back when I was a kid (I didn't start writing until about a year after my brother died). So a lot of those images surfaced out of this personal struggle, which I probably should have processed a bit more before committing it to the poem itself.

Thanks again for your feedback and for pointing out the places that aren't quite clear, and the things that do work as intended. If anything, I want to write a poem that others can inhabit and get something out of, and your reading was very helpful in pointing me in constructive directions.

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aBluPhoenix•

Susurration is one of my favorite words that I never hear!

Okay, let me think about the rest of the poem :-)

My very first thought was that this was going to be a joyful poem. About receiving happy texts:

In the middle of work I reach for texts in secret

I know it took a turn after that...

I like your use of tilt and tilled next to each other:

To tilt the coolness Of tilled earth

Lots of language here that I love and can really visualize:

The air weighted with leaves

A draft of words decanted From a sluice

An undisturbed pool Behind my eyes

A susurration wreathed Around my speech

Wow:

Of words that... perched in flocks, surveiling The alleys beneath their lines

This is beautiful. What I'm getting from it is that the narrator wishes they could fully experience and lean into and lose themselves into their grief, but they are unable, because they have to keep up appearances at work:

Where I’d wished to rend, As open and oracular As my father under The face of grief but could Only stand in its gloaming Its fluorescence and hymns

Unable to join

I haven't experienced directly the grief of losing a loved one, like I think this is about. But it's reminiscent to me of the fear and sadness the whole world is feeling related to the pandemic and everything else, and yet we all still have to get up in the morning and go to work.

Thank you for sharing it!

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frohike_OP•

Thank you for this reading! I was worried that some of the parts you mentioned were veering into abstraction and getting disconnected from the reader, so it's good to know that these pieces clicked. And yes, you described the uneasy quality that I (somewhat unexpectedly) came upon as I thought about my true feeling of ineptitude at the edges of language and how those are tied to early processes of grief that I feared in similar ways. Part of this is what impels me to write, but it's also a demon that I feel like I'm constantly fighting with the quality of my writing too (overly controlled, sometimes elusive, etc).

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aBluPhoenix•

I did find I had to read through a couple of times on some parts to feel like I understood it. But I personally am not afraid of that in poems. I'd rather things be deeper and more complex, and offer up different meanings when you read it more than once, then be overly simplistic. :-)

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aBluPhoenix•

I think the only part I was never quite sure of was this line:

"If I return with gifts"

The word gifts doesn't quite feel right to me. Maybe too positive?

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frohike_OP•

Good point… it doesn’t quite fit with the shift in tone below it. Hmmm.

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