Posted Aug 2, 2022, 4:52 AM UTC
Did "laboratory plant science research" not give away that it isnt a neighborhood?
Top post: “That's the biggest subdivision in the US. Hawaiian Ocean View Estates. It's massively underdeveloped because it's so remote and like living on the moon...not to mention downwind from Kilauea vog.
There's only about 2,000 people and 10,000 one acre lots. So it's sparse.
An oil company owned and paved it in the 1950's at a very large expense thinking people will just come in droves. They didn't.
It's kind of steep in places so the diagonals are probably to reduce the incline.”
It has a unique way of storing excessive abandoned vehicles.
Things are strange in that part of BI.
Don't ask too many questions?
Don’t ask any questions!
“Very odd” is one way to describe Hove
It's the big Island
That explains it
The overgrowth provides excellent cover for all the chronics to hide from the cops while they case the neighborhood for their next burglary.
Can confirm. Have a hanai cousin who spent a year at HCCC for growing weed in Ocean View. And a hanai grandma who grows her own and every time she hears a helicopter she gets paranoid because she thinks it’s “green harvest”.
Honestly I've had a lot more problems with chronics, thieves, violence, craziness, and people talking to imaginary people on Oahu.
Yes we have crazy here, but none of it compares to the absolute batshit crazy ass, fecal art, gas station water enemas, human shit on sidewalks etc that I've experienced on Oahu. Most of the fecal crazies were from Kailua even, except the sidewalk logs, that's Chinatown.
I feel way safer with BI crazies.
The streets are the least impractical thing about it. There's no county water so the houses are on catchment, but it gets about 20 inches of rainfall per year which is nowhere near enough. Plus it's located literally on the southwest rift zone of Mauna Loa. There are two lava flows since 1880 that go directly through it and another three very close by. If there was an eruption you'd have between 20 minutes and an hour's notice before your house got run over.
Imagine having to tell someone the way to get somewhere... "you gotta take the 2nd right, then the 3rd left, then right, left, right, left, right again, 2nd left, right, left, and then it's halfway on the right" lol
"... and if you come to a bridge, you've gone the wrong way. you gotta go back to the 2nd left, and ...." lololol
It's a grid, so it's usually only 2 turns to get anywhere
Ikr 😂 not any different from a nondiagonal set up
But where's the fun in that? 😂
We have friends that live there. The diagonal streets helps a lot with the incline. It’s really nice and quiet over there, we love it when we go stay weekends with them.
“You to can own your own little slice of paradise. For just $500 down and $99 a month…. “ I’m guessing they were selling the dream, site unseen.
My grandparents lived up in Ocean View and own two lots. They always tell me how itll be mine and my sisters one day, but we dont want them all that much lol. Its so hard to get there and the roads are so steep. Its very out of the way.
Ocean view attracts some really strange cats. There’s a small grocery store, gas station, and a small L&L. And it’s BIG but the landscape is between Mordor if it had trees and I want to say mars. It’s strange and you don’t want to spend a lot of time there.
It seems impractical to build a neighborhood with diagonal streets.
The meth-heads this subdivision was designed for wanted it that way.
retired parents lived there for a few years, neighbors were real characters, slightly weird middle aged haole lady would just show up and sit on their lanai, watch the sky, weird my dad out, another neighbor spent serious money building a legit house with solar etc etc and act like they were living in some LA suburb but yeah mostly empty empty except for the roads, and really pretty far drive to anywhere, also no town services like water, sewar, electricity etc you are on your own though the town hall near it had a spigot for water, folks would drive up with huge plastic containers on their truck
beautiful views of the ocean with NO obstruction or signs of humanity except roads from most lots
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Damn, this is actually interesting. Is there anything like this on Oahu?
Closest thing is Kunia Loa. "Agricultural subdivision" with tons of unpermitted illegal houses. More like Puna than HOVE though.
Nope
turn your head a little bit and then the streets are straight again :p
I actually got suckered into putting a deposit down for a 1 acre plot here to be informed a month later it was tied up in probate court.
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Wut? So you lost $500?
There are TONS of scams associated with that area. The whole thing was basically designed as a scam to get people to "buy cheap land in Hawaii!" Sixty years ago, and it's still mostly vacant cause it's frankly...a hot mess. Do not transfer any money for any land, any rental, or anything in Hawaii without being here in Hawaii. Book a hotel for awhile if you want to check it out and you must absolutely go visit in person to make sure that it's real.
Losing that deposit was actually a good thing long term.
That's the biggest subdivision in the US. Hawaiian Ocean View Estates. It's massively underdeveloped because it's so remote and like living on the moon...not to mention downwind from Kilauea vog.
There's only about 2,000 people and 10,000 one acre lots. So it's sparse.
An oil company owned and paved it in the 1950's at a very large expense thinking people will just come in droves. They didn't.
It's kind of steep in places so the diagonals are probably to reduce the incline.
I've heard they advertised it on the mainland using the phrase "GRADED AA LOTS" to make it sound like they were ranked super high quality, when it actually meant they ran a bulldozer over the ʻaʻa.
That’s hilarious
It's Graded A'a Lots
Idk why I thought this was a joke until I looked it up
I thought Hawaiian Acres was biggest with 3 acre lots?
HOVE is a bigger subdivision
What's Hawaiian Acres?
A smaller subdivision
HA is 11,800 acres, HOVE is 12,900 acres.
I thought Hawaiian Paradise Park (HPP) was the biggest…
nah. they just create the most traffic.
There are a lot more people than that living out here. Real estate agents before the pandemic said between 10-12 thousand. The census says close to 5000. But most people out here would never fill out a census form. We’ve had a flood of new people since then. Try and get a PO Box. Takes about two years and that was before the pandemic.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaiian_Ocean_View,_Hawaii