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Datrogh

How do Boss Carries actually work?

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I may not be a new player by any stretch, but during my League preparation I realized that I actually never made use of boss carry services. Rather, I'd just do the bosses myself when I was strong enough (which could take a while, since I'm a casual+)

Since I probably want to league start with a pure speed mapping build, I'd need to enlist a boss carry (from TFT or wherever) as soon as possible.

How does this actually work? What should I be aware of? What do I have to do mechanically (like: do I need to be in the arena when the boss dies? Do I need to hit the boss for it to count?)

I know how all the bosses work and farmed them myself, but I never carried, nor was carried, so sorry for the stupid questions :)

Posted Aug 11, 2022, 8:40 AM UTC

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sirgognerf me HARDER•

Maven and Uber Elder "Voidstone Service" carries are the ones you are most likely to care about early.

Normally here the carry gets the boss to ~5% then intentionally dies, prepares a gem with Culling Strike, then recruits the other players telling them "do not enter until told, once you enter, do not move"

Then they say "all enter do not move", wait 5 sec, then go back in themselves and kill the boss in one hit. Players then break their grace period and loot the voidstone.

Other services have their own nuances.

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DatroghOP•

That is enlightening, thank you very much for the details.

btw: I appreciate your youtube content, keep it up!

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TalranBathed in the blood of 195408 sacrificed in the name of Xibaqua•

Normally here the carry gets the boss to ~5% then intentionally dies, prepares a gem with Culling Strike, then recruits the other players telling them "do not enter until told, once you enter, do not move"

Or just do the boss normally and then tell everyone to pile in at the last moment, no need to die and burn another portal.

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kingdweeb1Chieftain•

Yep, if you're comfortable standing around not dpsing you can just stay in. Get an extra portal per fragment that way, but you've gotta either have them in your party longer or invite people while in the boss fight which can be freaky for some people.

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DreamWynd•

You just have to be in the zone when thr boss is killed, the carry will usually tell you when to join. If its a carry done on your atlas, depending on the encounter you might have to enter and start it, but that would be discussed before by the carry usually

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DatroghOP•

Thank you for your answer, that helps a lot!
Any tips on how not to get scammed? ^^

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Argark•

In my experience it's incredibly rare to get scammed, these are people that kill bosses all day back to back, it's way easier to scam them by not paying the fee after the kill, ive never met someone that asks to be paid before

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DreamWynd•

Honestly not 100% on that cuz I usually do my own bosses and sometimes help others but mostly if you're scared of scams, high rep members on tft, pay after if possible

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Nchi•

tft is pay after so its way easier to get clears like this- its more likely to short the boss killer and then you get your discord and even your poe account banned from tft swiftly.

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HyperFanTaim•

Use tft blacklist addon to check carry.

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vanFail•

Use tft, check tft boss carry name with the vouch list. If he has a ton of vouches go for it

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rasmus2337•

I think in general payment is done after the service. They might want payment upfront if you dont have a trusted rank yourself I guess. Don't forget to vouch after in vouch channel. If they list their ign in their boss service post they might expect you to message in game. They might already be doing a service and might not respond right away.

They usally tell you when you can enter. If you die stay in the map and you will get completion either way.

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DatroghOP•

Thanks for the clarification. I do have a trusted rank myself, have done A LOT of crafting during Harvest League ^^

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Aldunas•

Yo! Are you the guy from empyrean group?

I think you’re playing miner support with them! Just a question, I’ve rewatched every single stream recording from snap during archnemesis. It seems that you guys split into 2 groups. Pushers, chaos recipe farmers and you who is also pushing and building a boss carry.

The question is: is it worth investing into a boss carry or should miner support run heists for pure chaos recipe profit. And the person who gets all the watchstones for the group is assasin + aurabot… or is it still worth investing into a specific miner support boss carry?…

P.S why did empy delete all week 1 VOds?

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rasmus2337•

I am not. Rasmus is a pretty common name in sweden atleast. I think if you want to farm maps you always want 4 sextant mods so it should always be worth it atleast if your character is able to run t16. Im usally not super try hard at league start but I think chaos recipe strats lose value when exalt price goes up

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Aldunas•

Lol, I am sorry for pouring all this info on you… you are the second person I know who is named rasmus… lol… prettty stupid of me to assume you were that guy… sorry

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jonojojoJuggernaut•

FYI there is a rock band called Rasmus and they are pretty popular in their early days, so that name is pretty known I would say.

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H0n0ur•

There's different types of carries. So depending on if you want loot or completion, alot of carries will do completion for free if they keep loot, and you provide the frags. So basically your cost is the frags. Option 2 is the carry provides the frags and keeps loot, and you just pay a flat fee to witness, this a popular route. Both of the above give you completion, but no loot, so from your perspective there's no real way for you to get scammed.

The third way involves you getting the loot, you provide all the frags, AND pay a flat fee, and you keep the loot, or you can forgo the flat fee with a loot share, this is messy and if recommend just paying a flat fee. When you go this route you can get scammed, so either find a carry on tft who has alot of vouches, or find someone on forums who has like a billion plus ones. This is pretty easy since boss carries keep the same forum thread and update every league, so their posts have 30 pages of responses, this is a good sign. I've found guys on forums more reliable then tft, but either way is fine.

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DatroghOP•

The forum pages are a good tip, thanks!

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pansen3•

You join portal when carry tells you to. Service done.

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brodudepepegacringe•

I usually ask if they need explanation for what to do. Most people ask for details, others dont. Those who dont usually frick up. My recommendation is to always ask the carry how to proceed.

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hanksredditname•

In addition to what others said, If you find a free carry (or a bad carry) or are playing with a random group you can also just stay dead in the arena while the rest kill the boss and you’ll get the completion. This prevents you from wasting portals that may be needed by the carry or other group members.

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MayjaplayaOccultist•

This happened the first time I joined a free 5-way; the host died with almost 2 minutes left and if we paid for 5-way that would mean we would get either a free run or a refund, but since we didn't it was like whatever and the 3 of us left continued fighting and finished it ourselves.

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AltheranTrexer•

Its fairly simple. You open the fight and wait for the carry to get it down and tells you to get in. Then you get in, dont move, wait for the kill and pay the man and take your loot.

Just be sure to check TFT vouches for people. I payed a few very early feared carries and people failed the runs. Only ever got half of the cost back from 2 of them. When someone messes up your chayula, cortex, uber atziri, shaper, elder early it hurts your economy a lot...

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mbxyzBerserker•

you zone in when they tell you to, then you pay them

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francoroccoElementalist•

you enter map, get the kill, pay the money(sometimes is the other way around)

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00zau•

My experience has been the carry either has you enter, die, and lay there dead while they kill the boss, or tells you when to enter right before they finish (like during the last phase) in order to minimize scaling.

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NhireTheCursed•

just join a guild, there's surely gonna be somebody who can help lel

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joe200packs•

Boss carries only make sense in HC.

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