SAPS Tactical Response Team taking care of a hostage situation in Ladysmith a month ago.πΏπ¦
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reddit.comPosted Aug 15, 2022, 7:01 PM UTC
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reddit.com"sniper on the roof" not a weapon scope in sight.
It really sucks how underfunded these organisations are.
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TRT don't have snipers.
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Well, even designated marksmen type roles have some sort of glass on weapons in most of the Western world.
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Dude, most 3rd world armies have optics. The SANDF infantry rifles are exceptions in this world. At least all the TRT and up units have decent weapons.
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That's my point... ΚβΏΚ
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Well if you were in charge of procurement for the police, what would you rather do:
Purchase boring equipment like optics
Or
Go on a state funded holiday?
Your choice
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See now, if you put it like that...
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Besides STF are there any police snipers?
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Not that I'm aware of. Between TOMS, CI and NIU if they have they keep it a secret. I'm also not sure whether SSA domestic branch have their own individuals in the CSU, or just borrow from STF, SF or DI.
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Well this is a juicy topic.
Firstly TOMS doesn't have a set training program but they draw from previous experiences and training one of the section commanders is ex 44 Parra and was trained as a sniper (SAPS) way back in the 90s when a course was opened via Presidental protection services with two stf members who presented it to internal stability and obviously the bodygaurds under PPU.
Secondly Marksman courses ran between NIU and mobile operations and was cut do to stf complaining and mentioning you must be trained in HRT to be alegable to be trained as a counter sniper/sniper.
NIU operators then organized with SF to present the course which got a green light but ultimately got canceled yet again by STF.
SSA has snipers trained via SF at Murry hill.
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Brah I know only 3 of those acronyms lol
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Yes, CAT have snipers. NIU and TRT have marksmen.
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Do they use similar rifles to their equivalents in the SANDF? I.e. R1s, R4s, Truvelos, AWMs?
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Do they use similar rifles to their equivalents in the SANDF? I.e. R1s, R4s, Truvelos, AWMs?
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Only civilian snipers. I know a guy that lives in Ladysmith, coincidently, that shoots 2km+ competitions
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2km+ ? You know that the 6th longest sniper kill (made by South African SF in 2013) is only something like 2.3km? I would love to find a competition that is dedicated to everything over 2km.
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Oh its actually 2 miles. King of 2 miles its called
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Keep in mind that even if they have options (which most do actually, just depends on where you are stationed), the FAB defense rails are absolutely shit at holding zero. Hence why you won't see optics on rifles usually. I have a few pictures of custom dust cover railing that some have paid out of their own pockets to put on but most can't afford it or don't want to do the paperwork.
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Firstly, you need to post pics of those modified dust covers.
Also, check out the link below. It's the massive handguard thing that the SANDF marksmen use. FAB VFR-GA. Holds 0 and has A LOT of space, so you can mount an optic + IR + foregrip + flashlights or whatever you want. BUT, it's heavy, fokken expensive, and allegedly very awkward to use. The SANDF considered upgrading all rifles to this standard back in 2012 I believe, but decided to just outfit the Marksmen so long.
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I believe so as well, SASF get them standard these days, but as you said it has a lot of cons.
Most CI and special units in SAPS get the option of FAB rails, they also come at an extra cost and paperwork. Most of them do fit everything one needs at a slightly cheaper price.
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I thought only STF and NIU were qualified to handle hostage situations
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Technically yes, but they aren't always available, so the TRT is trained in "Barricaded Suspects" which is very similar to most hostage situations.
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A store klerk and one customer were taken hostage by a gunman in a store, the TRT breached, saved the hostages and arrested the gunman.