Does anyone else feel this way? Role model talk.

Just because they have uteruses doesn't mean that I should feel obligated to like them, support them, or even respect them.

I have no idea who Anastasia Steele is, but I agree with not wanting those other women to be role models for my future daughter.

But shouldn't women be banding together and supporting one another, instead of calling them out as inappropriate or the wrong kind of person?

Why?

We all have our own opinions of what is good and bad, right or wrong and will inevitably pass these on to our children, because we don't want them to be badly influenced.

You said you understood parents not wanting a daughter to grow up negatively, then completely contradicted yourself.

I don't agree with you at all. Just because the names you mentioned are women, doesn't mean they qualify as role models. Are you saying all women should be role models? 'Cause these sure aren't people I look up to, and if I ever have a child, I wouldn't want them to either.

Some people provide examples of what not to do. I'm sure on the list of ladies you mentioned, there are some perfect examples of great screw-ups and great successes.

I look forward to having a daughter one day and I hope she doesn't turn out like Miley Cyrus ... but I grew up in the same world as Britney Spears and I did alright. Still growing up ... but we all are.

I mean, Miley Cyrus. Smokes pot, dyes her hair blond, shows off her bra strap, is dating an older man, etc. Not perfect. Not exactly the incarnation of evil, either.

That sort of post grinds my gears because it assumes that a child will look up to and emulate every aspect of a celebrity's life - and somehow I think I can raise a child better than that. With a sense of taking the good from what she sees and learning from the bad. Nobody is perfect and I don't think I can name a single woman that I would want my daughter to copy. She gets to be herself. Not me, not Kim Kardashian.

How about role models, both male and female, that actually embody the traits you think are important? I think that's more important than just their sex.

There is a difference between viewing someone negatively and judgmentally, and merely deciding you do not want to follow their path. Remember that about both cases; teach your children what you believe to be good, and what you believe they should do to be good. But also teach that the cases where actually viewing someone negatively should be few and far between. This goes for men, women, real, and fictional...and everything in between.

On a separate note, I don't quite get your distinction between real and fictional. The same analysis of actions, motivations, and realism can be applied to real people, famous or not, as to characters in books.

I don't think Kim Kardashian is a bad role model actually (I know everyone else here does though). She's not a young girl's role model, she's a young woman's role model.

Yes, she made a sex tape that has been viewed by millions and profited by it. That doesn't make her a terrible person. I(and I'm sure you have to) have been to porn sites and there are literally thousands of women in them! THOUSANDS of women do porn! You might think yes, but that's because it's their job...NO...have you seen the amateur ones? They didn't all do it because they were getting paid or for fame. They made the video and for some reason or another it wound up on the internet. The difference is, they didn't get fame and money for it. I'm sure some of them would take that opportunity if it was presented to them.

She made a sex tape and then the media became interested in her. It was her claim to fame. So she recognized that opportunity and made a business out of it. She endorses lots of products, has her own fragrance line, clothing line, and nail polish line. She banks from reality shows. She makes appearances to meet with her fans all over the world and she models. What is wrong with that? That actually takes a lot of work to do. Although it may seem petty, superficial, materialistic and worthless to some, she is in demand. What, should she stop all of that because she doesn't contribute to society according to your standards? She is a business woman who created an empire for herself. That is something to be looked up to in my opinion. It takes work to wake up around 4-5am to get ready and do interviews and photo shoots, sit in meetings discussing product lines and endorsements, and make appearances. All the while, you're being filmed doing it.

She's not like the Paris Hilton socialite who constantly goes out to clubs and lounges and gets drunk and says things like "that's hot" as tag lines. I see that as a bad role model.

If you've seen her show or follow media coverage on her, you'd know that she doesn't go to clubs often unless she is getting paid to. She doesn't really drink alcohol often. She's never been blasted by the media for drunkenly leaving a club or anything like that. She doesn't smoke or do drugs. Besides her sex tape, she hasn't done anything that scandalous in my opinion.

I realize that she had this fairytale wedding that lasted only 72 days. Maybe you think it was fake and for ratings. I don't think it was. I don't think she needed to do that to get rating or to become more famous. The reality of her marriage wasn't as great as it was when she was going through the planning and actual wedding. I'm sure that sometimes people get carried away with things. She realized this and got out of a bad relationship. She didn't put up with it. She was strong and realized what she needed to do to be happy. Many young women sometimes realize that they are in a bad relationship that won't work for whatever reason, yet they choose to stay because of fear or immaturity. Kim could have stayed in a marriage she wasn't happy with, but what kind of message would that send? That you should just put up with something that you're unhappy with?

This post ended up being longer than I thought so I will wrap it up. In today's reality, young women feel pressured to be successful, look good, and be happy. Young women make lots of mistakes whether it be in friendships, relationships, their jobs/careers. Young women need someone to look up to, to understand that it's okay if you mess up and that life goes on. If you get an opportunity, you have the decision to take it or leave. Don't judge others for their choices.

There aren't too many role models out there for either guys or girls that are easily visible or popular. You have to do some searching to find the good ones. I mean, one of the best male role models I can think of that is in the public eye is Stephen Fry (he's good for boys and girls), but outside of Britain he's a bit unheard of.

Well I think the point of motherhood is to teach your daughters which girls are good/bad role models, and what makes a successful woman.

If you are unable to do this then maybe you need to reconsider motherhood.