My Idea on a Clicker Rework- The D Infinity of Remotes! (Reupload because of Spam Filter?)
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reddit.comPosted Aug 19, 2022, 4:41 PM UTC
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reddit.comThese are all awesome options, but having all of them on one item can be a bit much. I do super love the interaction with Dogma, it's always fun finding these interactions in-game.
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Yeah having all of those in a single item makes it kinda bonkers.
Like I know D-infinity is basically a direct upgrade to every dice in the game and you'd never drop it for one of them, but this item is the same deal and has a bunch of other effects on top.
Like not only would this thing never be dropped for one of its constituent items, but it would also rarely be dropped for anything else.
Honestly I think it would be an awesome idea for a hard-locked starting item for a new challenge, that doesn't show up anywhere else.
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Maybe a challenge where it is locked as active, and you get a couple battery items, and panic button as a locked trinket, where you have to beat the Beast fight.
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Honestly? Not really. It's mostly just a bunch of mediocre actives. The only real cracked one is the slowdown effect, game kid and dogma kill.
About time we had a cracked active item honestly.
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teleport 2.0 is insane, you can use it to get angel/devil room and error room every floor if you get lucky with batteries
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if you're lucky
If you're lucky you can get to angel/devil rooms every floor anyway
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A fun idea would be to not be able to use the same button twice in a row (it’s a remote, that wouldn’t do anything) so you have to keep swapping around active items like crazy
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Maybe drop the Bomb function and change Shuffle to switch you into a random character for 6?
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Hard disagree. The remote items are by and large absolutely incomparable to dice items, straight up. This item simply isn't even on the same page as the D Infinity - it's not even in the same book. Not dropping an item for a large amount of the possible actives isn't really a criticism? The goal was clearly a significant upgrade, and these items are garbage for the most part.
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D infinity is trash because i forgor 💀
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I think a good nerf would be only being able to charge through batteries(they only give 2 charges) that way it keeps the theme of being a remote and isn’t that broken
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I really like that idea, but that leaves a lot to chance in the best of circumstances. Maybe you can only charge it through the mechanics of a battery item or with batteries themselves. Like, no charge after each room, but bloody battery or trickle charge can give charge when they proc instead.
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Or maybe it could start with a 12 charge and every time you use one of the buttons it deplets the charge the way the function says and it can only be charged again by getting batteries, that would make it less broken and make you use it smarter.
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love this concept!! i think i would actually use clicker if this were implemented LOL. great work!
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This is actually very cool! The only changes I would make is that everytime you switch to a different character it could give you one broken heart so it balances out and that "Power" only defeats the first form of Dogma, being able to defeat both form is way too good lol.
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This would also make sense in the way that after the first phase the tv is broken, so a remote wouldn't do anything anymore
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Maybe have it like the the Bible, it kills the mom/mom heart but kills the player on satan/isaac. So remote would kill dogma but hurt isaac on the next phase.
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Trying to turn off dogma when he's already left the TV hurts isaac, could be an interesting concept.
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I feel like giving broken hearts has gotten out of control, every mod does that to balance and thats kinda boring imo. I think it would be cooler if it gave different random bad effects like maybe stats down, removing items, removing pickups, maybe even a low chance of the remote breaking (and giving broken remote)
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Since I play on console I haven't seen the modded items that give broken hearts, so the concept is still pretty unique to me. Also removing one item is why people don't like it and is a Quality: 0 item. Removing pick ups isn't really enough of a downside and it has to be a significantly big stats down to be a downside. Having it possibly break is a cool idea tho. Maybe if it breaks it switches to a random character you didn't pick or maybe making it so you can only switch to a different once and then it breaks, making the player really think if they want to switch characters for completion marks on a hard character to use but losing the clicker and its really good effects.
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Does changing characters really need a downside though? In normal gameplay it barely changes anything to become a different character later in the run and even when talking about completion marks there's only a few scenarios where you're actually getting any extra marks
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It really does need a downside. For example: you can have a broken run with Isaac, T. Isaac, T. Cain and then use the clicker to change to one of the harder to use characters like J&E, Blue Baby, T. Eden and easily do their completion marks. You could also have items that give you infinite charges and constantly change to T. Cain to get infinite R keys and do the completion marks and ALL characters.
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You can still do this on current clicker though it’s downside doesn’t prevent this at all, the lame factor does.
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I was thinking the exact same thing!
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Instakill Dogma lol, quality 4 great item 10/10 autograb take every time
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I mean I guess? How often you fighting the beast?
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1/4th of the time I make it to endgame (not actually but it's still often)
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Adam Sandler as a character when
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When you use the Clicker, you become the Clicker
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This would become a quality 5 item. Insta kills dogma, let's you slow beast down, and then change characters so you can cycle over to t lost at the last second.
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The only character that could abuse it like that is Bethany/T Bethany.
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Just need battery items and you could use it multiple times during the Beast fight
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4.5 Volt and Book of Shadows already wins any run anyway, so who cares?
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There's a recharge so it would only let you do that if you pick up The Battery and then 4.5 volt or something stupid like that. With Book of Shadows and 4.5 Volt existing, I'd totally allow that.
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instead of bomb? you could put skip and have it open all doors maybe?
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Oh that would be neat! Dad's Key effect built in would be pretty cool.
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ye, plus I know a few items have similar effects anyways so it wouldn't be an issue. what about adding something like killing the enemies too? or makes the enemies glitched if you go back to the room you used it in?
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These are actually all amazing dude! I would love to see this in the actual game.
Although I don’t think the Remote Bomb works with this all, considering that isn’t a button that’s generally on tv remotes. But apart from that one the other ones are definitely really good.
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But you have a button that teleports you to a random room in your house?
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You should go with the time. It's the hottest sh*t right now!
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I don’t get what you are trying to say.
Is this supposed to be a joke, an argument, or am I just completely missing something?
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That that’s not the only one not based on an actual button. It still fits imo being a remote item
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Oh okay I slightly understand now, but I do have a question, which other buttons aren’t on a remote?
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i think that's why he put a question mark after it, like isaac's saying "why is there a bomb button on this?"
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Aaaaah, that makes a lot of sense.
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Yoo i also had that idea but yours is more advanced
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wait bomb?
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you don't have a bomb button in your TV remote?
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now im scared
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Bomb?
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oh
bomb?
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Sorry
Bomb machine broke
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INSERT BOMB OR SELECT EXPLOSION TYPE
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Really cool, would love to see a mod of this. Power should probably only kill the first phase of Dogma though, since the TV's kinda gone after that!
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Enter the Gungeon blank be like
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I was actually looking to use a Blank as a flavor image! Unfortunately I was using Google Slides to make this and the only blank images I could find weren't PNG's or white backgrounds img
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Cant you drag & drop images from online? Also change the color to transparent when you're searching for images
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Go to tools > color > transparent on google if you wanted to know how
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If you still can't find it try cropping a fake transparent image in photoshop or if you're poor and/or desperate, try putting the image in the drawing thing in google slides
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Unless it's buried somewhere in an unforgivable place, setting a transparent color just wasn't an option on google slides, and I'm too poor to get actual Powerpoint and too lazy to learn actual editing tools.
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i really like how it incorporates all the different remotes as well as the power idea, although maybe it only kills the first phase since the first phase is killing the tv itself?
since you were asking for ideas for the power button, it could maybe drop a lil battery? 6 charges to put 6 charges on the ground
also to make fast forward not completely ignored (i dont think most ppl would want to make dodging harder even at the benefit of high tear rate), maybe it could be an on demand mars dash/pony dash? since it makes you fast and makes you go forwards
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Nintendo hire this man
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Okay, this is epic
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Speaking of... Opinion on Dogma? I think the boss is really fun! I hate that it's another speed check boss tho...
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Dogma is my favorite fight in the game. Best music, I like all of the mechanics, and the fights after are all pretty fun, too.
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Fav boss, the brimstone pisses me off though
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Not a huge fan of the frisbee feather explosion segment, feel like it goes on too long if it happens, but otherwise excellent fight
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Second phase needs like 1-2 more attacks so he doesn't just spam the spin feather attack over and over. Other than that, no real complaints other than it being YET ANOTHER boss that uses boss armor.
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The "reverse" effect being stronger than Stop Watch is too good. Maybe make it so the effect only lasts like around 10-30 seconds or make the effect weaker than stop watch.
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Make Reverse a six charge that has the unique trait of being able to be used at any charge. Rewinds actions up to a charge a second, up to six seconds or if you reverse out of the room
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Edmund do it NOW
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This is actually very original!